Qualcomm CEO Says Out of Court Settlement With Apple Could Happen

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple and Qualcomm have been embroiled in a bitter legal battle since the beginning of the year, and though the fight has escalated in recent weeks, Qualcomm CEO Steve Mollenkopf today told Fortune that an out of court settlement is not out of the question.
    Mollenkopf went on to say that he has no specific news of a settlement and that nothing new has happened in the case. "I don't have an announcement or anything so please don't ask, he told Fortune. Mollenkopf made a similar statement back in February, but that was before the legal battle between the two companies intensified. At that time, he also said he didn't expect a public fight, something Apple and Qualcomm have not been able to avoid.


    Today's interview suggests Qualcomm is still open to settlement talks, but whether that will happen remains to be seen. If Apple and Qualcomm do not settle, we can expect a legal battle that will continue on for several years.

    The fight between Apple and Qualcomm started in January, after the FTC complained that Qualcomm had engaged in anticompetitive patent licensing practices. Apple sued Qualcomm for $1 billion just days later, accusing the company of charging unfair royalties for "technologies they have nothing to do with" and refusing to pay quarterly rebates.

    According to Apple, Qualcomm has overcharged it by billions of dollars by "double-dipping" with unfair patent licensing agreements, while Qualcomm claims its innovations are "at the heart of every iPhone" and that the royalties are fair.

    Qualcomm went on to countersue Apple in April, accusing the company of breaching licensing agreements, making false statements, and encouraging regulatory attacks against Qualcomm, which prompted Apple to stop making royalty payments to Qualcomm entirely until a court can determine the proper amount due.

    Apple in late June expanded its lawsuit against Qualcomm, and at the beginning of July, Qualcomm filed a separate patent lawsuit against Apple and asked the International Trade Commission to block imports of select iPhone and iPad models.

    Article Link: Qualcomm CEO Says Out of Court Settlement With Apple Could Happen
  2. farewelwilliams macrumors 68000

    Jun 18, 2014
    pretty much means "i think im going to lose...soo just pay us to stop this thing pls"
  3. 4jasontv macrumors 65816

    Jul 31, 2011
    Please don't settle. Take them to court. Try and get every penny out of them... and fail. Fail so that the little guys who can't sue Qualcomm can get a reasonable price when trying to develop something beyond a pad of glass.
  4. Michaelgtrusa macrumors 604

    Oct 13, 2008
  5. BasicGreatGuy Contributor


    Sep 21, 2012
    In the middle of several books.
    Reads like an offer to settle. Otherwise, he opened his mouth about ongoing litigation when he shouldn't have.
  6. cmaier macrumors G4

    Jul 25, 2007
    I've seen a lot of patent lawsuits. Publicly saying "the case might settle" is intended to send a message: "our position feels weak. let's talk about settlement."
  7. Sunny1990 Suspended


    Feb 13, 2015
    It will be Good if Apple Stay on it's stand. Qualcomm should pay back that overcharged money.
  8. ILikeAllOS macrumors 6502


    Jul 28, 2011
    Tampa Bay
    Translation: We don't have a case so we're hoping Apple will just give us some free money so we will shut up.
  9. manhattanboy macrumors 6502a


    Jan 25, 2007
    In ur GF's bed, Oh no he didn't!
    In other news, Qualcomm CEO says that an iPhone 8 may happen too.
  10. nutriousmitten macrumors regular

    Feb 7, 2017
    With lawyers involved, everything takes about 10x longer then it should.

    So an update from February is really like an update from 2 weeks ago in the real world. If pressed by either side, the lawyers would say they are still gathering evidence into record or doing some photocopying to have things properly transcribed.

    They know tha upper management internally only have so much time in a week or month to deal with these legal matters, nevermind each case, so the law department pretends to be busy after the monthly meeting and waits until the next meeting in 6 weeks to appear busy on the case again. And that's just dealing internally, never mind actually attempting to make progress with the other side.

  11. Seoras macrumors 6502


    Oct 25, 2007
    Scotsman in New Zealand
    Yes, that feels like justice.
    Reality however would be years, perhaps several or more, of suit and counter suit, appeals etc etc.
    Just look at the court case of Apple-v-Samsung and the iOS UI patent infringement of Android.
    It's still ongoing. It may never end.

    Qualcomm got away with it for too long, Apple gained enough financial and technology strength to mount a war and win so Qualcomm needs to make peace, say sorry and get something of a deal which sees the lawyers getting as little of what's left of their profits as possible.
  12. JPSaltzman, Jul 17, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2017

    JPSaltzman macrumors regular


    Jun 5, 2011
    Nonetheless, Qualcomm had a nice and rather convincing full-page advertisement in today's national New York Times, justifying their existence.
    I haven't seen Apple do a similar ad since, oh, when the 1984 Macintosh was introduced and they were running full-spread ads in typesetting trade magazines (as well as the Wall Street Journal) convincing type houses to change over to Macintosh with its state-of-the-art bitmapped fonts (while failing to mention that every trade ad Apple ran had been typeset by a professional type house on proprietary typesetting machines, i.e., not the Macintosh). After all, Bitstream Garamond (i.e., Apple Garamond) was still proprietary, available on only a few typesetting machines.
  13. s15119 macrumors 68000


    Nov 20, 2010
    Apple should just buy them and be done with it.
  14. Cosmosent macrumors 6502a

    Apr 20, 2016
    La Jolla, CA
    FYI to all, and you heard it here first ... I'm gonna try to get an audience with Mollenkopf Tues or Wed, regarding a market opportunity that I'm sure is Off Qualcomm's radar, as well as one that offers "potential Leverage" in their endeavor ! ... I'm sure it helps that I've spent a year consulting at Qualcomm on their SnapDragon ASIC family, but it's what I've done since then that's gonna knock their socks off ! ... this is gonna steal some 8 and 7s Thunder ! ... at a MIN, consider this One Across the Bow !
  15. Kabeyun macrumors 68000


    Mar 27, 2004
    Eastern USA
    Both bad cop and good cop? Nice. Extortion, phase II.
  16. isomorphic macrumors regular

    Apr 19, 2010
    Qualcomm: [Charges Apple X% of MSRP, after charging Foxconn by some other scheme.]
    FTC: [To Qualcomm] Ahem.
    Apple: [To Qualcomm] We want our assembler, Foxconn, to pay you $X flat licensing per part once. We won't pay again for the assembled product.
    Qualcomm: No. We'll sue.
    Apple: Good luck with that.
    Qualcomm: Our intellectual property is fundamental to everything about a modern smartphone.
    Apple: In that case, FRAND.
    Qualcomm: No. We'll sue.
    Apple: [Uses Intel parts.]
  17. 69Mustang macrumors 603


    Jan 7, 2014
    In between a rock and a hard place
    I get the point you're trying to make... and the joke. It would help if everything in your quote wasn't wrong. Maybe going back to look at the competing lawsuits would help.
  18. Jsameds macrumors 68040

    Apr 22, 2008
    Bye QC it was nice knowing ya so long and thanks for all the chips
  19. fokmik macrumors 68040

    Oct 28, 2016
    Apple stay and don't settle. Raape Qualcomm
  20. hotgril Suspended


    Jul 4, 2017
    Artsakh, Armenia
    These guys are so salty that they exist only to sell commodity parts. "The iPhone wouldn't exist without us" or something along those lines was their only argument. Not to discount the brilliant engineers working for them (I know a few), just their management.
  21. MacBram macrumors regular

    Jan 28, 2002
    Zeeland, Nederland
    Right around that time, in my early teens, I was working after school in my Grandfather's small print shop. So, I was around for some of the transition involving Computer to Film (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_to_film). They got a Mac pretty early on. Fun times.

    But why do you feel Apple should have required a printing house to have already started using its new system, in order to ask them to produce the ad encouraging houses to run the new system?

    I do get that the ads in question wouldn't have showcased the Mac's capabilities fully or done it justice (like the projection screens at WWDC this year didn't do the new 120MHz refresh feature justice).

    But, that's like saying Universities shouldn't promote their courses and degrees unless all their professors got their degrees from the University they now work for!
  22. apolloa, Jul 17, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2017

    apolloa macrumors G4

    Oct 21, 2008
    Time, because it rules EVERYTHING!
    Not really surprised.... this is the modern way to do business now, Apple has certainly don't this many many many times now and settled out of court. Just like it has done here.
    Just seems to be a waste of time to me.

    Just like the Ericsson case where Apple had to settle out of court before Ericsson ripped them to shreds in court. With that case Apple was all counter sue blah blah you charge to much blah blah... sounds familiar..
  23. ItzJordan macrumors newbie


    Mar 11, 2015
    I really hope Apple sorts out this issue with Qualcomm and is able to have their LTE modems in the iPhone... Because here in Australia, we have Gigabit LTE (1000Mbps) and Samsung is marketing the S8 soo much that its sooo fast over 4G etc because of their Gigabit LTE compatibility here in Australia...
  24. zulkiflim macrumors regular


    Jan 6, 2008
    Qualcomms is quaking.

    Apple do not relent , Kick Qualcomm ass...
  25. Ries macrumors 68020

    Apr 21, 2007
    Apple uses the exact same pricing scheme, but I guess Apple can do no wrong right?
    --- Post Merged, Jul 18, 2017 ---
    What is it you people usually say, "Don't like it, don't buy it". Shouldn't be hard if "The iPhone wouldn't exist without us" is wrong.

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