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Qualcomm Claims Snapdragon X Elite 21% Faster Than Apple's M3 Chip
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If anything like their last so-called better then M2 benchmarks then they burn more power to get the multicore scores and their single thread performance (the benchmark that matters most generally) is still significantly worse. The M3 Max or Ultra would be the right chip to compare to for multi-core performance. Or better- look at performance per watt. Qualcomm isn’t anywhere close to beating Apple Silicon. These are just marketing shenanigans.
When I was a teenager (1.5 billion years ago) it was the gear heads expounding on the superiority of their Chevys, Fords, and Chryslers. In the place of benchmarks they had superchargers, custom cam shafts, valve lifters, four barrel carburetors, and compression ratios to PROVE their brand was superior. The Chrysler Hemi engine was bigger than sliced bread back then.
Hilarious wet dream. Not going to happen. Apple Silicon is custom designed by Apple. It’s NOT an off the shelf ARM SOC. There’s no way macOS will run on an ARM Hackintosh by another manufacturer.
I get adverts for Apple services all the time in macOS…..
disguised as functions.
As well on my Apple TV.
It absolutely will.
The Hackintosh scene already has apple silicon flavors running on arm processors as a proof of concept.
With more work it will run fine.
Right, and back then as well as today, there are cars that cannot be driven on public roads. They aren’t street legal.
99% of computer users have absolutely no need for such power. On tech blogs all we heard from are professional wannabes who think more powerful chips will somehow change their lives.
I think if you’re looking for something underwhelming that was the M2 family, as well as the disgusting nerfing of the M3pro to push people towards M3max. Basically M3 pro is almost the same as the M2 pro, which in turn was a lacklustre upgrade of the M1 Pro. At this rate Apple will squander all the advantage it has and competitors will overtake it.
Wake me up when they actually release something other than a Geekbench or a roadmap.
Chipmaker Qualcomm has claimed that its new Snapdragon X Elite PC processor is 21% faster than Apple's latest M3 chip in multi-core performance, although questions remain about its thermal profile.
Demoing PCs with the new chipset, the San Diego manufacturer told Digital Trends that the Snapdragon X Elite records a multi-core Geekbench score of 15,300, whereas Apple's M3 obtains a score of 12,154. What Qualcomm did not mention however is the Snapdragon-powered machine's power consumption as a benchmarking vector, which is an important indicator of efficiency performance.
Qualcomm's upcoming range of 2024 Windows PCs are expected to be offered in different thermal design profiles. The performance-focused 80W profile runs faster but generates more heat and requires active cooling (fans), while the efficiency-focused 23W profile is made to be used in thinner laptops with passive cooling systems. For comparison, Apple's base M3 MacBook Pro houses a single fan, similar to the discontinued 13-inch MacBook Pro, but the M3 Pro and M3 Max use dual-fan designs to allow the additional cores to reach maximum performance under load.
The Snapdragon X Elite was announced in late October, just before Apple announced its new MacBook Pro lineup powered by M3 series chips. Despite the claims of better performance offered by the Elite chip over Apple silicon, Qualcomm conceded that "hardware... is the only thing we can control," and therefore the user experience between the rival machines is "not going to be the same," because "they're running macOS and we're running Windows."
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Exactly.
A processor from Qualcomm... in a laptop from Dell... running an operating system from Microsoft.
That's a lot of cooks in the kitchen! And that's just the computer itself.
You're right... they still need developers to write ARM-compatible Windows software if they want this to be anything meaningful.
I'm interested to see where this all goes. But it's a long road ahead.
In other words, Qualcomm is copying Intel’s homework. “What, we can’t actually compete on efficiency? Then let’s run the chip at a high enough power level to claim the win.” Which is precisely what Intel has been doing recently.
Efficiency makes a lot of sense. Now, granted, you can’t really run a bank of rackmount servers off of Apple Silicon quite the same way you can Snapdragon X or x86, you’d have to buy the Macs themselves and buy rackmount enclosures from the likes of Other World Computing (though the Mac Pro does come in an optional rackmount case). But higher efficiency in your server center means lower cooling costs and lower electricity costs for a given amount of computational power (or alternatively, the ability to use those cost and electricity savings to increase your computational power). The fact that Qualcomm doesn’t seem to be trying to compete on efficiency with Apple potentially suggests a flaw with the Snapdragon X architecture that leaves room on the table for some other ARM licensee to compete on efficiency (with Apple or with Qualcomm).
Maybe you should be sleeping instead of reading "news" in a rumors website and complaining the product doesn't exist.
HA! Have you seen how Apple "cherry-picks" it's performance specs? The last dog-and-pony show for the M3 they compared to an M1 and not a M2 to make things look faster for the M3. The reality was, M3 wasn't much faster than M2. Everyone does it, even your dear Apple.
Crap like that is why I never watch videos about new tech on YouTube. It’s all clickbait and low quality sensationalism. I mostly stick to retro tech videos, as a result. (Never did get into watching LinusTechTips, for instance.)
How is that any different from a processor from Intel in a Dell Laptop running Microsoft Windows? Same number of cooks...
Pragmatically, the 'plain' M3 is about the 6th generation if connect the. AxxX (big die) series that the Mx effectively replaced ( still used in iPad Pros. ). Same die size range. 115-145 mm^2 through almost all of the history of that lineage.
The Mx Pro/Max were more so the distinct change into very roughly 2x and 4x bigger die sizes. Qualcomm Elite X is one die being pushed into two roles. It is a bit bigger ( 170-180 range ) and trying to play. role that Apple is using two dies to cover ( 'plain' Mx and Mx Pro ). Which is prudent given that it is a real first generation chip ( no track record for these CPU cores or integration with other legacy Qualcomm IP. Working out the kinks on just one die is enough. Apple die that on AxxX for 4 iterations before expanding. )
Decent chance that Qualcomm will hold on just one die stretched over multiple roles for gen 2 also. 3rd iteration is where I'd expect some changes ( They have higher priority issues of moving 'down' into Phone/tablet space before chasing relatively very high TDP PC laptops. Easier for AMD/Intel to get traction there where far more likely to also be weaving in dGPUs. )
Yes, it’s the same (and the argument still stands because Intel tries to make the exact same argument about performance these days*). Apple’s level of vertical integration is a strength of theirs, usually they can tweak the performance profile of their software in a way that you’d never be able to with Windows, due to its need to target a broad base of hardware.
* Intel is in worse shape because it’s faltering in a four way race. AMD has it beat for x86 performance and performance generally with its Ryzen series, Apple Silicon has it beat for efficiency and performance in laptop and non-server/non-gaming desktop applications, and Qualcomm is also challenging Intel with these Snapdragon X chips.