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Qualcomm Demands German Court Fine Apple for Continuing to Sell iPhones After Ban
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I think this is what happened:
Apple had Qualcomm chips inside their iPhones (actually they still do in older iPhones), Apple paid for those chips including all IP licences, now, Apple didn't want to pay the prices Qualcomm was asking so they stopped paying, Apple wants to pay for those licences but Qualcomm won't licence them without also buying their chips.
If this is the case what can Apple do, yes, they are infringing cause those IP rights are in most of their iPhones but shouldn't Qualcomm provide Apple those IP rights (by paying a fee) without Apple buying chips?!
Apple had Qualcomm chips inside their iPhones (actually they still do in older iPhones), Apple paid for those chips including all IP licences, now, Apple didn't want to pay the prices Qualcomm was asking so they stopped paying, Apple wants to pay for those licences but Qualcomm won't licence them without also buying their chips.
If this is the case what can Apple do, yes, they are infringing cause those IP rights are in most of their iPhones but shouldn't Qualcomm provide Apple those IP rights (by paying a fee) without Apple buying chips?!
Can apple do anything wrong in some people's eyes?
I doubt Apple is just flat out ignoring anything. They probably believe they have followed the law.
At any rate, QCOM is stupid to continue messing with Apple. Apple is going to move on and QCOM will have their patent portfolio without a large customer.
At any rate, QCOM is stupid to continue messing with Apple. Apple is going to move on and QCOM will have their patent portfolio without a large customer.
I'm more inclined to see China's reaction to all things Apple if the iPad Mini 5 is actually produced in Taiwan as reported.
well apple broke the rules. If you sued someone for money wouldnt you want that money be paid to you if you win?
Just checking, it’s like a disagreement between a couple and you as a friend of one of the party takes a side, not knowing any of the details. To me it just seems premature and has nothing to do with the customer until a court trail decision has been made, that may effect future cost of Apple products and/or services by cents. In the broad scheme of things it’s net effect on any of Apple customers is very minor, non observable in reality.
That's the issue, Apple could easily make their own, but they can't because they don't own any of the Patents.
Ha! My mom used to watch that soap opera religiously. Are soap operas still a thing?
I think you may be conflating the two cases. Apple already lost the German case. They are going to appeal. To enforce the ban, QC had to put up that $1.3B security bond, payable to Apple if Apple wins on appeal. So yes.
The N. California and German cases have no bearing on each other. The ban did apply after the verdict.
Your pragmatism kinda ruins @Skeptical.me's joke about the venerable soap opera Days of Our Lives. Knock it off.
The question remains why does Apple customers or in this case forum members care if there is a lawsuit, why post it in the main page.
Recommendation to post it in a separate legal section if one is interested. It’s like the Apple vs. Samsung case that went on for years, why do I care of the outcome. This is part of business, what next MacRumors posts an article of how much toilet paper the Apple Campus 2 uses on a daily, weekly, yearly basis. Get real, post this stuff in its own section for those interested and have no direct involvement on any of the outcome.
Most people come here for interesting news on Apple products and services that “directly” effects their usage and business. How does some common licensing spat between two corporations affect these users daily lives. Big deal product is not available in a certain country, there are other legal methods to get that model or buy something else. Life goes on.
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Do you really care about what every component in your phone, computer, car, software licensing deals cost. If you do great, if not the multitude of details does not effect 99% of users.
This is not done class action relating to user privacy, battery, or some other defect. This is corporate to corporate business, do you think QualComm cares if you as an Apple customer gets 5Mb for more or less speed compared to another vendors tech. No their care about their own corporate concerns; unless this case directly involves you, I recommend posting it to a specialized section as “legal”.
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Please tell me you're joking with this. Nothing you wrote is true. It doesn't even resemble anything going on in this dispute, which is sad because there's no shortage of accurate information about the issue. It's like you're trying to mimic your tagline.
It’s humour, and whatever information is available for the public to see is not the entire story. It’s a he said she said for what the public sees, there is a reason why certain details are only available during trials.
If a case has an appeal, it is exercising ones right under the law. There have been false convictions multiple times in the past and may continue into the future. It is not as simple as one believes what is being openly reported.
I'm more inclined to see China's reaction to all things Apple if the iPad Mini 5 is actually produced in Taiwan as reported.
They’ll poop out all sorts of stuff if that happens.
All I meant, in a jovial manner, is that this is just another drama. One I honestly couldn't care less about. So, maybe you missed the memo.
It appears to me if anyone here is making a big deal out something irrelevant, it is you.
Grab some friends, go to the local pub, have some dinner and a few beers. And relax. Or there's always Xanax
Memo received
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It appears to me if anyone here is making a big deal out something irrelevant, it is you.
Grab some friends, go to the local pub, have some dinner and a few beers. And relax. Or there's always Xanax
Are you spying on me?
I was at the pub with friends having dinner when it was posted.
No medication required
Well this could end today if Apple is willing to pay up now. Just wire transfer that extra single digit percentage from their cash and that would shut Qualcomm forever.
That wishful thinking for these Qualcomm Crooks
Too bad for them, their bullying tactics don't quite work on Apple.
Ok...
Apple sold iPhones to third party sellers in Germany (T-Mobile, Vodafone, MediaMarkt, Saturn, Cyberport, Gravis and lots of other resellers).
Qualcomm got a decision from a court in Germany that Apple is not allowed to sell some iPhone models in their Apple stores, which Apple follows (as these older models are not sold anymore by Apple directly anymore).
Now Qualcomm wants to force Apple to not sell the already sold iPhones through the aforementioned third parties anymore.
But.... the iPhones are already sold and are now property of the third parties.
So in my eyes Qualcomm has to sue every third party seller to not sell these iPhones.
Just saying.... (and i might be incorrect)
Apple sold iPhones to third party sellers in Germany (T-Mobile, Vodafone, MediaMarkt, Saturn, Cyberport, Gravis and lots of other resellers).
Qualcomm got a decision from a court in Germany that Apple is not allowed to sell some iPhone models in their Apple stores, which Apple follows (as these older models are not sold anymore by Apple directly anymore).
Now Qualcomm wants to force Apple to not sell the already sold iPhones through the aforementioned third parties anymore.
But.... the iPhones are already sold and are now property of the third parties.
So in my eyes Qualcomm has to sue every third party seller to not sell these iPhones.
Just saying.... (and i might be incorrect)
I hope Apple eventually makes their own modems... and license it for free to any OEM that wants to use it just to kill QC.
License it for free? From apple? We all know this ain’t gonna happen.
Look how ready Steve Jobs was to do anything to kill Android. If Apple hates QC enough, it's worth it to just to end them.
Royalties would still be owed to Qualcomm, Nokia, Samsung, Ericsson and all the others who spent billions creating the cell standards.
QC can shove off.
Most definitely a cocky comment from Jeremy. I'm not sure what fantasy world he's living in when we all know Apple does nothing for free.