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Qualcomm revealed X Elite's benchmark scores
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And they’ve copied the Mac Mini’s price point as well, around 600 dollars. It depends though… a lot of these smaller machines are not bought for gaming performance, and not being “hot, loud or slow” is a perk, but is it enough to weigh up against the compatibility issues?
Qualcomm apparently still has a exclusivity deal for Windows on Arm SoCs until the 2025 summer.
It's gonna be interesting to see what especially Nvidia and others with it's partners come up with.
Competition is good, not just ARM vs X86, but also ARM vs ARM, leads to more innovation and choice.
It's gonna be interesting to see what especially Nvidia and others with it's partners come up with.
Competition is good, not just ARM vs X86, but also ARM vs ARM, leads to more innovation and choice.
Lenovo just announced a sub 600 $/€ laptop IdeaPad Slim with the Qualcom Snapdragon X at the MWC (Mobile World Congress) in Barcelona.
Hopefully this will lead to further competition and good value options from them, Intel, AMD, Apple and more.
Hopefully this will lead to further competition and good value options from them, Intel, AMD, Apple and more.
With New Snapdragon X Chip, Qualcomm Targets $600 Windows Laptops
An upcoming budget-focused Snapdragon X processor will join the X Elite and X Plus lines. The company is also bringing its CPUs to the market for mini desktops.
Today I was able to buy half a dozen 2020 MBA 13" M1 8GB 256GB made in 2024 for $540 each without VAT.
So it is possible to buy an ARM laptop at that price point.
I look forward to sub-$200 mini desktop Win11 on ARM PCs that will outperform a 2019 Mac Pro Xeon W.
You compare a soon, brand new , not released arm windows with an almost 5 years old arm macos machine. This upcoming $600 arm windows in 5 years will cost $100 or nothing, garbage. whats next
Again, a brand new cheap arm windows will have so many compromises, since the top of the line arm windows already have some drawbacks...your top tier phone will do everything and faster
Again, a brand new cheap arm windows will have so many compromises, since the top of the line arm windows already have some drawbacks...your top tier phone will do everything and faster
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I just want ARM mini laptops (think 7 - 10" form factors from One-Netbook or GPD) that give 8-10 hours of real world battery life.
Qualcomm has more immediate Windows market issues besides Apple....
www.tomshardware.com
Even if the version 2 (or 3 depending how they label it) CPU cores turn in better numbers, that is only 'half' the system puzzle. If the Nvidia GPU drivers are more solid then there is traction they will loose on that 'half' of the equation.
This is MediaTek massaging the Arm designs on a leading fab process. Yeah it doesn't beat M4 , but also likely cheaper ( well until Nvidia adds their charges. )
Nvidia's 20-core N1X leaks with 3000+ single-core Geekbench score — Arm chip could rival Intel and AMD's laptop offerings
But it's no match for Apple's M4 Max, yet...
Even if the version 2 (or 3 depending how they label it) CPU cores turn in better numbers, that is only 'half' the system puzzle. If the Nvidia GPU drivers are more solid then there is traction they will loose on that 'half' of the equation.
This is MediaTek massaging the Arm designs on a leading fab process. Yeah it doesn't beat M4 , but also likely cheaper ( well until Nvidia adds their charges. )
Qualcomm has more immediate Windows market issues besides Apple....
Nvidia's 20-core N1X leaks with 3000+ single-core Geekbench score — Arm chip could rival Intel and AMD's laptop offerings
But it's no match for Apple's M4 Max, yet...
Even if the version 2 (or 3 depending how they label it) CPU cores turn in better numbers, that is only 'half' the system puzzle. If the Nvidia GPU drivers are more solid then there is traction they will loose on that 'half' of the equation.
This is MediaTek massaging the Arm designs on a leading fab process. Yeah it doesn't beat M4 , but also likely cheaper ( well until Nvidia adds their charges. )
Guessing Nvidia can fund a significant portion of their ARM based ultraportable chip development with work carried out for Nintendo and others on things like the switch 2. And their GPU side is just a cut down variant of what they run on desktop and high end laptop.
Sure, its a gaming platform but in terms of processing requirements there's a huge amount of crossover with ultraportable tablets and laptops.
I mean the switch/switch 2 itself is basically just a tablet with a decent GPU and some controllers.
Did they ever fix the overheating issues? I tired, and the snapdragon laptop, it ran too hot, worse than winter machines or my old 2019 MBP.
These are different Arm cores than the Switch 2. Switch is a relatively ancient A78C cores.
Nintendo Switch 2's SoC die shot reveals 8x A78C cores, 1,536 Ampere shaders, and Samsung's 8N process
Emulated docked performance is comparable to a GTX 1050 Ti.
Arm was pitching those for folks to use back in 2020.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/arm-looks-to-laptops-cortex-a78c-processor-for-pcs-announced
That isn't turning in anything even remotely close to 3000 GB6 single thread scores at all.
More than likely MediaTek is founding the Arm core work since they are doing it. Nvidia is just 'partnering' here initially. The major problems for Intel (and lessor extent AMD x86 ) is when 'off the shelf' Arm core designs are competitive with the x86 designs carrying along a large bag of constipated bloat as a boat anchor. Don't need any "Apple design team" magic sauce to keep up. Decent chance if MediaTek doing all the scut work to make things work with Windows kerels and mainstream drivers works OK (and Arm makes regular, good upgrades) that nvidia wouldn't have to spend huge sums of their own money to eat away Windows marketshare.
If there a middle man dropped it would be MediaTek and Nvidia would just buy the cores from Arm. Other vendors could also license the cores but the iGPU from Nvidia would be the exclusive hook.
The A78C are indicative that "deeply customized and exclusive" Arm cores don't really matter much for that market.
P,P.S. In Windows space, likely Nvidia gets more bang-for-the-buck out of expanding the whole Arm subsector into running Nvidia dGPUs. That would be more Nvidia exclusive hardware bought and even higher prices.
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