Qualcomm's U.S. ITC Complaint Falling Apart as Apple Implements Workaround in iOS 12.1

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  1. interessiert macrumors regular

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    Why nobody talks about the heavy disadvantages for customers?

    They purchased an iPhone 7/8 (or plus) with an average battery time.

    Since iOS 12.x this battery time is shortened obviously between 40% up to 60% (depending on the way of use) :rolleyes: – and NOBODY CRIES! :confused:

    I wait till this "battery gate" is driven to surface – a big wave...

    So we understand better the battery replacement program of 2018 ;)
     
  2. kdarling macrumors P6

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    No, it said that Apple claimed they didn't think they infringed.

    Same as what Samsung said when Apple claimed that Samsung infringed on some utility patents. Samsung said they didn't think they infringed, and yet came up with workarounds anyway, just as Apple has.

    It's one of the benefits of the patent system: the later inventions to work around an existing patent.
     
  3. cmaier macrumors G5

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    You are completely and totally wrong. Saying “not true” and disagreeing with me doesnt make you right. There is no “good faith” exception to patent infringement.

    35 USC 271(a): Except as otherwise provided in this title, whoever without authority makes, uses, offers to sell, or sells any patented invention, within the United States or imports into the United States any patented invention during the term of the patent therefor, infringes the patent.
     
  4. lederermc macrumors 6502

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    yes
     
  5. Kabeyun macrumors 68000

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    He who lives by minutiae dies by minutiae.

    No.
     
  6. Alan Wynn macrumors regular

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    This is not a patent infringement trail, this is an ITC case. They can only prevent the infringing devices from being imported. Once they are here and have been sold, they are no longer involved. There are also some patent infringement cases in progress as I recall, but this is not one of those.
     
  7. cmaier macrumors G5

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    The I.T.C. can issue a cease and desist order that affects domestic sales and inventory. They are not limited to exclusion orders that prevent importation.
     
  8. moorey macrumors newbie

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  9. Breaking Good macrumors 65816

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    Samsung most likely licenses technology for its own chips from Qualcomm. Qualcomm is slowly working its CPU’s into larger devices. Qualcomm makes modems for other devices (think Internet of Things).

    Still, it pains me to see these two companies squabbling. They could accomplish so much more if they worked together.

    Apple will never be the leader in every single piece of technology in the iPhone. They will more than likely spread themselves too thin and end up putting out a mediocre product. Better to let others work in thier specialty and focus on what they can truly do great. It’s not like Qualcomm is ever going to compete head to head with Apple.
     
  10. T-R-S macrumors regular

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    Some of those patents are pretty ridiculous and broad. For example throttling functions in a device to conserve battery life.
    Than's like me taking a patent out on "breathing air"
     
  11. jdmachogg macrumors member

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    No
     
  12. code-m macrumors 6502a

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    Qualcomm is heading down RIM/BlackBerry’s path. Intel’s mobile silicone is seeing heavy competition from other companies and their modem sector, if no breakthrough is made will slow down and eventually be dropped due to heavy losses.

    FRAND will save the day.
     
  13. mi7chy macrumors 603

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  14. Abazigal macrumors G4

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    Settle?

    Apple is poised to drive a stake through the heart of Qualcomm’s very business model. Makes no sense to show any mercy, given all the shenanigans Qualcomm pulled over the past few months.

    Apple just needs to twist the knife at the right moment, and it’s all over...
     
  15. cmaier macrumors G5

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    That’s not what the patent claims. You have to look at the patent claims at the end of the patent specification, not the title and abstract, to determine what is patented.
     
  16. clauzzz203 macrumors 6502

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    So, what do they throttle in this workaround?
     
  17. mi7chy macrumors 603

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