Quanta Reportedly Supplying Apple With 'Autonomous Driving Solutions'

[ersan191]

Aaah, I love the Tesla! Just that once it runs out of battery, you are stuck.
A hybrid car is a better solution, specially one that works like a Prius.

I hate to break it to you, but if you run out of gas you are also stuck. I'd wager that power outlets are even more plentiful than gas stations as well.

 

[ChrisA]

But it will only burn Apple electricity and run on Apple approved roads, plus when you turn right or left you'll get a pop-up message saying "Do you authorise this vehicle to access the indicators? Yes, no, yes, no, yes, no.".

That is not the worst of it. The Apple car "Mark I" will be 3 feet tall and only a little hard to get into but by the time the Mark III is released the car will be dramatically thinner at only 30 inches, you will need to lay on your back to fit inside and most of the useful features will be removed. The interior will be all white with no controls, knobs or handles and the exterior will be aluminum and glass.

But then, they fired that designer guy (what was his name?) so maybe common sense will return.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

"I love the Macbook Pro! Just that once it runs out of battery, you are stuck."
"I love the iPhone! Just that once it runs out of battery, you are stuck."
"I love the iPad! Just that once it runs out of battery, you are stuck."
"I love my Galaxy Note 8! Just that once it runs out of battery, you are stuck."
"I love my Toyota Prius! Just that once it runs out of gas, you are stuck."

I see you completely missed the point and assumed what you wanted to assume.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

Do you have trouble reading directions? When the car tells you it needs to recharge, do you ignore it??? Charge the Tesla at night and this is never an issue. Buy a hybrid and running out of gas is much more likely.
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Yes it does. Nobody's going to make a self driving ICE car that can refuel itself. Even if they did, nobody's going to provide insurance for it.

OOOOKKKAAAYYYY! i’m in the middle of nowhere after driving for hours, and it’s 1:00am, good luck finding a charging station.

I wasn’t referring to city driving, which it’s usually no more than 120 miles on a day.
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I hate to break it to you, but if you run out of gas you are also stuck. I'd wager that power outlets are even more plentiful than gas stations as well.

“Excuse me Sir, I’m driving to another state. May I plug in my car to the outlet on your porch?
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[coolbreeze2]

Apple will buy insurance. The cost of this insurance will be pasted on to buyers as just the price of the car. People who ride in self-driving cars will not need liability insurance.

The overall cost will be less because today human-driven cars are the leading cause of death in the world for those under about 45 years old. About a million people are killed by cars in the world each year.

So the overall cost will be reduced.

Think of it this way: If all the humans were replaced by robot drivers and these robots killed 100,000 people every year. Bad as that sounds we would be 10 times better off letting the robots drive.

Yes, the insurance is expensive but it will be less expensive than what e pay now.

OK that makes sense.

 

[Vanilla35]

I agree. Owned a used 2014 Tesla S for a while and decided to trade it in and buy a 2017 Model X (again, used). I can't afford a brand new Tesla, but after someone else has eaten the initial depreciation -- they've become possible. And honestly, even a brand new Model 3 is finally in my "possible to swing the monthly payments on" range, too. But I wanted something a little bit bigger than that.

Thanks for the long and detailed response. I'm actually a car enthusiast myself and currently own a 2017 Miata, but I also have been swaying towards Tesla and don't think I would buy another ICE car in today's climate. A lot of what you mentioned above are things I have thought about, but it's great to hear it from another person, more specifically an actual car enthusiast, instead of just a tech enthusiast - since they aren't always coming from the same point of view.

 

[xalea]

These EVs aren't going anywhere until they charge in less than 5 minutes. Too many people live in townhouses, condos, apartments, etc. without anywhere to charge. Let alone needing to drive any realistic distance for 80% of Americans. Nobody wants to wait ages for their car to fuel up.

Also, how do you charge when PG&E has rolling blackouts? Does it bother anyone that the vast majority of electricity for their "clean" cars comes from burning coal? The whole thing is ridiculous. I think eventually EVs will take over combustion engines, but we're a long way off from that happening.

 

[DeathChill]

These EVs aren't going anywhere until they charge in less than 5 minutes. Too many people live in townhouses, condos, apartments, etc. without anywhere to charge. Let alone needing to drive any realistic distance for 80% of Americans. Nobody wants to wait ages for their car to fuel up.

Also, how do you charge when PG&E has rolling blackouts? Does it bother anyone that the vast majority of electricity for their "clean" cars comes from burning coal? The whole thing is ridiculous. I think eventually EVs will take over combustion engines, but we're a long way off from that happening.

Aren't going anywhere? Have you taken a look at what's happening with Tesla and the Model 3? It's already started.

 

[now i see it]

Our president isn’t going to like this one bit

 

[Alessiot]

Love my Tesla those who fear running out of juice. You have to remember that you start everyday with a full battery because you plug in at night

 

[Romeo_Nightfall]

Aaah, I love the Tesla! Just that once it runs out of battery, you are stuck.
A hybrid car is a better solution, specially one that works like a Prius.

i hope you never forget the filler up

 

[cknibbs]

Unless you have to take a 400 mile trip across several states in the midwestern winter where there are insufficient fuel charging stations to make the journey. On the other hand, there are plenty of truck stops and gas stations on the route. Additionally, the cold weather isn't really going to mess with your fuel overnight if you're not in a garage, but it will definitely lower the range on your EV the next day.

EV's are fantastic for local driving or if you live in a nice climate. Midwest winter with travel? Prefer a petrol.

I see enough of them up here in Alberta and we have no charging stations where I live and our winters are way worse and people manage just fine. I’d dump my ICE vehicle in a heartbeat.

 

[jerryk]

I see enough of them up here in Alberta and we have no charging stations where I live and our winters are way worse and people manage just fine. I’d dump my ICE vehicle in a heartbeat.

Yep. And EVs are the #1 selling cars in Norway, where they have some real winters.

 

[cknibbs]

Yep. And EVs are the #1 selling cars in Norway, where they have some real winters.

Being from Alberta I’ve heard it all in regards to EVs. The cold, the “where the electricity comes from”, the no charging points and the list goes on. It’s frustrating how many people in Alberta are so against moving our economy from oil based to renewable energy based. Obviously “turning off the taps” isn’t what we are going for, but moving what we can to renewables only seems logical yet it’s met with so much resistance.

 

[extrachrispy]

How is that different than... “once I run out of gas I am stuck?”

If you can handle managing a fuel gauge or a cell phone battery you should be fine managing a EV.

It's different in that, if you are one who enjoys scenic backroads, it can be a very long way between charging stations. Case in point: US 95 headed north from Las Vegas. Once you leave Sin City, you won't see another charging station until you get to Hawthorne, 315 miles away. If you have one of the higher-capacity Teslas, and you start at least nearly-topped-off in Vegas, and you don't need to use much resistive heating for the cabin along the way (it's bloody cold up in Silver country in late fall and winter), you're good. Otherwise, you are STUCK.

Meanwhile, gasoline and diesel vehicles can fuel up at the Area 51 Center in Amargosa Valley or in Beatty, near the Nevada end of Daylight Trace Road (and you'd better fuel up in one of those places, because there is NO GAS until you get to Tonopah).