QuarkXPress 6.1 Almost Here?

[bensisko]

Originally posted by bousozoku
Does anyone else wonder that, if everyone jumps to InDesign, Adobe will slow innovation without competition?

Not at all. Photoshop has been continously improved and has no real competition in the market. I would even dare to say that Photoshop probably has a Microsoftian market share.

Adobe is the rightful heir to the publishing market, and InDeisgn is the vehicle that will bring them back. Adobe is print, Apple is video, and Macromedia is web. It's a holy trinity sort of thing (the exception is Photoshop, where no matter what you're doing, you are probably using Photoshop for something).

 

[bousozoku]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Quark 5 vs Quark 6

Originally posted by mvc
I fully agree, and its not just Adobe, all the Macromedia MX series are slugs compared to their older versions (I haven't tried the very latest versions).

I had assumed this was because they are carbon apps rather than cocoa. Or is it Jaguars menus etc (I haven't got Panther yet)

Anyone able to confirm this?

I said "most of the graphics industry" Studio MX 2004 is horribly slow.

It has nothing to do with Carbon or Cocoa, specifically. It has to do with taking a System 6 or System 7-compatible application and doing the minimum to make it work as a native application.

As a developer, it really makes me angry that these things pass as native. Properly written Carbon is as fast as Cocoa. It takes more re-work than most of these companies want to spend. Considering the price of an upgrade, you'd think we'd bought the re-work. As I started to use the latest Dreamweaver, I thought that there must be some mistake. Someone must have forgotten to do something.

Weren't we upset like this when the PowerMac series had just arrived or when System 7 arrived?

Transitions are hell.

 

[mvc]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Quark 5 vs Quark 6

Originally posted by bousozoku
I said "most of the graphics industry" Studio MX 2004 is horribly slow.

It has nothing to do with Carbon or Cocoa, specifically. It has to do with taking a System 6 or System 7-compatible application and doing the minimum to make it work as a native application.…

…Weren't we upset like this when the PowerMac series had just arrived or when System 7 arrived?

Transitions are hell.

Ahh, thats a pain, so its no better than the previous version of MX for speed?

IIRC in the dim past newer software generally ran slower but at least compensated with many more useful features.

But I can't cope with the idea that Photoshop 5.5 running in Classic (an emulator, for heavens sake!), is actually faster than Photoshop 7 on my system. (512mb, Dual 450, Jaguar).

Seems immoral that they want so much more money to give so much less in terms of the basics. These software houses are simply depending on faster processors to do their "optimisation" for them! Damn you Adobe - refactor that sucka!

 

[bousozoku]

Originally posted by mvc
Ahh, thats a pain, so its no better than the previous version of MX for speed?
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I never ran Dreamweaver MX on my dual 800, but MX 2004 seems slower on mine than MX on the dual 533 I was using at school with an early release of 10.2.

FireWorks, on the other hand, seems quite speedy but then xRes and PhotoStyler were too and good genetics help.

 

[Thalcor]

Can anyone suggest a good place for QuarkXPress user discussion? I have looked high and low for a decent QuarkXPress user forum, but have come up empty so far. Unfortunately, most forums have devolved into a flame war among its members or is filled with nothing but "Use InDesign".

I provide support for 41 newspapers, and while some are moving to InDesign, some still choose to stick with Quark. Those users who stay with Quark are doing so for one reason: They don't want to learn anything else. My markets who use InDesign typically are much happier with their software than the Quark 6 users, and I am trying to steer them toward InDesign. Regardless, I still need to support this software, and doing so has proven to be quite a challenge.

So, I ask you, dear readers, have you found any good spots on the Web to discuss Quark 6 problems? I have several problems that need to be addressed, and I'm hoping others have found solutions. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards, and thanks in advance!

 

[Douglas _Allan]

Just got off the phone with Quark India? for 25 mins...

OK... Here goes.

I had to reactivate our copy of Quark 6 because we just got a G5 dual 1.8 in and wanted to try it on a faster machine. Well the first install was already wacked because of more RAM and switching to Panther.

So after reading a serial # and valdation code and activation code and then getting a 50 digit activation key read back to me (no I'm not making this up). It occured to me. Maybe sending all the customer support and tech support over seas was a bad idea.

Oh yeah, this is after I already e-mail a PDF per their request with no response for 24 hours.

Reading those damn long numbers is hard enough, then you throw into the mix a crappy connection half way around the world and english as a second language.

This is tough. I can't image if we had a real deadline and Quark decides it doesn't like an Apple patch or something.

What do you do wait for Quark to open the next day. This is not customer service. This is bogus.

Maybe they should have just done a hardware dongel and saved everyone a lot of trouble. Then you could take the dongel with you and use it on a laptop.