Question about Apple Watch and iPhone iOS updating...

[JrFreak]

I bought an Apple Watch series 4 and didn't realize I have to be on the latest iOS on my iPhone to sync it. I'm jailbroken on 11.3.1 and I really don't want to lose my jailbreak. My question is if I decide to go ahead and update my iPhone to 12.3.X and sync will I need to keep updating my phone when I new iOS comes out or will I be able to keep using my watch and not have to update?

 

[matrix07]

You don’t have to update, if you don’t update your watchOS.

 

[Shirasaki]

Your watchOS follows your iOS version. If you never upgrade your iOS, your watchOS will never update. As for the minor version like iOS 12.2, that does not really matter that much.

 

[JrFreak]

Oh ok. Thanks for the info. Apple Watch worth losing a jailbrake for? There are only 3 tweaks I use and if Apple had them I wouldn't jailbreak any more. Let us have blanks between springboard icons, let us change springboard grid size (and icon size) and allow thumb swiping on keyboard to move the damn cursor for typo corrections.

 

[Shirasaki]

First two tweaks are essentially the same thing: customise home screen icon locations. With Ive’s departure, there might be a tiny bit of hope this feature will be introduced in iOS 14 or 15 or even later versions.
As for the last tweak, instead of thumb swiping on the keyboard, “trackpad” is available on all devices by long pressing space bar on the keyboard. This is the feature to allow users to move cursors around. In addition, users can use thumb directly on the text to move cursor around. No more magnifiers (it is still available though). You need to wait till September / enroll public beta to use iOS 13 to get this feature though.

 

[matrix07]

and allow thumb swiping on keyboard to move the damn cursor for typo corrections.

That’s already available in iOS 12. Force Touch (or long press in case of iPad) on space bar to turn it to track pad.

Worth losing a jailbreak? No one can say that but yourself but if you want to get healthy, goes exercise the watch is essential.

 

[Rodan52]

iOS 13 and iPad OS 13 are due to be released in September so you may not even need to reinstall the jailbreak to get what you want because 13 is quite a jump from 12 all following in line with the macOS Catalina 10.15 release due at the same time.
They are all pretty groundbreaking upgrades and personally I wouldn't want to miss them bearing in mind that Catalina will be exclusively 64bit apps.
I'm running the beta of iOS 13 at the moment and it's pretty good.

 

[Takerouw]

Can i use my 1st gen apple watch (watch os 4.3.2) with iphone ios 13?

 

[MrUNIMOG]

Can i use my 1st gen apple watch (watch os 4.3.2) with iphone ios 13?

Of course you can.
I don't think iOS will ever drop support for old Watch models, just like iTunes still supports every iPod ever made.

 

[HDFan]

I don't think iOS will ever drop support for old Watch models, just like iTunes still supports every iPod ever made.

An Apple watch is a totally different animal than an iPod. Eventually old watch hardware will be unable to support the latest software features. IOS 13 won't ruin on iPhones older than 2015, such as the 5S, 6 and 6+.

https://www.computerworld.com/artic...s-ipads-support-apples-ios-13-and-ipados.html

 

[MrUNIMOG]

An Apple watch is a totally different animal than an iPod. Eventually old watch hardware will be unable to support the latest software features. IOS 13 won't ruin on iPhones older than 2015, such as the 5S, 6 and 6+.

https://www.computerworld.com/artic...s-ipads-support-apples-ios-13-and-ipados.html

I wrote about iOS, not watchOS. Obviously watchOS 5 and 6 don't support the 1st gen Watch.
But iOS 12 does and most certainly so will iOS 13. And as far as my expectation goes, the versions to come after that as well.

Much like iTunes still supports the 1st gen iPhone (while obviously current iOS doesn't) or as I said every iPod ever made.

 

[HDFan]

I wrote about iOS, not watchOS.

Yep, missed that. What happens when the latest IOS & WatchOS apps are completely revamped, such as is happening with Catalina? Aperture is dropped as of Catalina. Rather than just a few needed integrations you need with an iPod (playlists) you have an order of magnitude more complexity. Apple eventually drops support for older hardware so it will be interesting to see how that affects obsoleted versions of the watch when it happens.

 

[MrUNIMOG]

Yep, missed that. What happens when the latest IOS & WatchOS apps are completely revamped, such as is happening with Catalina? Aperture is dropped as of Catalina. Rather than just a few needed integrations you need with an iPod (playlists) you have an order of magnitude more complexity. Apple eventually drops support for older hardware so it will be interesting to see how that affects obsoleted versions of the watch when it happens.

iTunes support for devices also goes way beyond syncing music, includes restoring/updating and for iOS devices even local backups. However I agree that integration of the Watch with iPhone is yet another level of complexity. We might eventually see certain features of watchOS 4.x not being supported anymore with future iOS releases, but I don't expect support for watchOS 4.x to be dropped altogether in the foreseeable future.