Even though many functions are declared in <NSPathUtilities.h> it does not appear to be it's own class. ( If NSPathUtilities is searched for in the documentation, there is no class by this name). What exactly is it, and where are all the common methods/functions for this header? thanks in advance. ps...slightly OT...but, is there a problem with the OBJ-C mailing list at Apple. It seems to have been down for a few days...or it may just be me. Thanks again.