I am a convert waiting for my Macbook Pro to arrive. I do have a question. My experience with name-brand laptops and desktops is that they install a butt load of useless applications, some freeware and some shareware. Generally the first thing I have to do is wipe the drive and manually install a fresh install of Windows. Is this a problem with Apple products as well? I found the list of what is pre-installed on the MacBook's. Is this the limit of that list, or will I find myself dealing with Google Toolbars and Yahoo junk on the initial startup? I am going on a limb here and assuming that even these applications can be uninstalled, right? I realize that many think these applications are worth money and love them, since I will be new to these, I have to decide on my own; however I do want to have the option to either remove or at least do a clean install of the OS. What would be nice, is if the Apple 'recovery cd' has an option to do a clean install of just the OS or at least have the option to deselect applications prior to there installation. iTunes iPhoto iMovie HD iDVD iWeb Photo Booth Front Row ^--- All of these appear to be of value \/--- These are questionable GarageBand QuickBooks Comic Life Omni Outliner Thanks!