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mr_oba

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Hey folks! I'd like to have some personal experience from you iPhone 7 Plus users. I'm planning to buy the phone... but I had very bad experiences last year with my 6 Plus, so I want to make sure I'm not making a mistake when I buy it.

If I know correctly the screen in the 7 Plus has a higher resolution then 1080p. Apple decided to downscale that higher resolution to 1080p instead of using a native 1080p panel. That caused so many performance issue in the 6 Plus. It was laggy, it felt "heavy" using it, especially at facebook timeline scrolling or safari webpage scrolling. It lagged... badly. It opened apps much slower than the iPhone 6. With the same iOS and same usage the small iPhone 6 had none of those issues. So I guess the problems were caused by the higher resolution and by the downscaling.

My question is that is there any lag or performance issue with the 7 Plus? I know the small iPhone 7 is smooth, but I would like to have the Plus model. Is it laggy? What about content scrolling in facebook or in webpages? Is there any microlags or bigger lags? Stutters?

Please note I'm not trying to have a bad opinion on iPhones in general, otherwise I wouldn't want to buy one right? I just need some real life experience from real iPhone 7 Plus users.

Thank you!
 

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I came from a 6 and what I can tell you is that iOS 10.3.2 which is the most current has tons of performance issues it's not necessarily the phone because friends who have the regular 7 and I test there's it's the same things the phones lag and stutter in the exact same spot now in terms of app scrolling it's very good every now and then occasional loading jank but I would say twitter and Reddit are especially bad, third party like narwhal and Twitterrific fixed these issues for me gaming is pretty good tho the phone does get a little warm after little play over all I'll say it's an okay experience but it could be better hopefully iOS 11 resolves my gripes if you want further insight i recommend going to YouTube and watching Chris pirillos videos about both devices he is a very honest reviewer
 

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All I can tell you is that my former 6+ had no problems whatsoever. No lagging, and great performance. My 7+ is likewise performing fine. And iOS 10.3.2 has no performance issues that I can detect.
 

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My question is that is there any lag or performance issue with the 7 Plus? I know the small iPhone 7 is smooth, but I would like to have the Plus model. Is it laggy? What about content scrolling in facebook or in webpages? Is there any microlags or bigger lags? Stutters?

I have owned every iPhone Plus model for comparison. And the iPhone 7 Plus is by far the best of all of them and what helps with the fluidity, is the additional 3 GB of Ram with the 7+ Coupled with the performance with the A10 Fusion Processor.

Just in comparison to my 6S + and 7+, the 7+ is notably smoother and is quicker with multitasking, without any lag.
 
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mr_oba

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All I can tell you is that my former 6+ had no problems whatsoever. No lagging, and great performance. My 7+ is likewise performing fine. And iOS 10.3.2 has no performance issues that I can detect.

That's strange, because I had to sell my 6+ after 3 days of use. I was just sick of the lags and frame drops... I don't know how your 6+ was different. I tried everything, restore, reset, setting up as a new iphone. If I remember correctly I was on iOS 9.3.3.
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I came from a 6 and what I can tell you is that iOS 10.3.2 which is the most current has tons of performance issues it's not necessarily the phone because friends who have the regular 7 and I test there's it's the same things the phones lag and stutter in the exact same spot now in terms of app scrolling it's very good every now and then occasional loading jank but I would say twitter and Reddit are especially bad, third party like narwhal and Twitterrific fixed these issues for me gaming is pretty good tho the phone does get a little warm after little play over all I'll say it's an okay experience but it could be better hopefully iOS 11 resolves my gripes if you want further insight i recommend going to YouTube and watching Chris pirillos videos about both devices he is a very honest reviewer

Thank you for your answer. It would be nice to see a video about scrolling performance in the UI in general and in apps. I'm sure app loading times and gaming performance, and multitasking are great, but I don't want to see any hiccups.
 

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That's strange, because I had to sell my 6+ after 3 days of use. I was just sick of the lags and frame drops... I don't know how your 6+ was different. I tried everything, restore, reset, setting up as a new iphone. If I remember correctly I was on iOS 9.3.3.

On a sidenote, one of the pitfalls with the iPhone 6 Plus, was it only had one GB of RAM. It was completely underpowered.
 
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mr_oba

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I have owned every iPhone Plus model for comparison. And the iPhone 7 Plus is by far the best of all of them and what helps with the fluidity, is the additional 3 GB of Ram with the 7+ Coupled with the performance with the A10 Fusion Processor.

Just in comparison to my 6S + and 7+, the 7+ is notably smoother and is quicker with multitasking, without any lag.

Ram has nothing to do with lagging imho. But thank you for sharing your experiences.
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On a sidenote, one of the pitfalls with the iPhone 6 Plus, was it only had one GB of RAM. It was completely underpowered.

I agree... but the i6 also had the same ammount of ram with the same spec, except it had a lower resolution screen running on its native resolution, so there were no downscaling involved. My buddy had the i6 when I had the 6+, and his phone was buttery smooth compared to my laggy i6+.
 
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Ram has nothing to do with lagging imho. But thank you for sharing your experiences.

I can't speak for your exact situation. But The 1 GB of Ram and GPU performance did affect the 6 Plus. It's widely known and commonly discussed it struggled with "Lag", especially with Safari and application crashes. The iPhone 6 performed stronger than the 6 Plus,
Primarily because the GPU could manage with the iPhone 6 lower resolution.
 

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IPhone 6 Plus:
1. Dual core CPU
2. Quad core GPU
3. 1GB RAM

IPhone 7 Plus:
1. Quad core CPU
2. 6 core GPU***
3. 3GB RAM

Resolution remains the same as downscaled to 1080p but the 7 Plus seems to have no issues with it compared to the 6 Plus which would drop frames constantly.
 

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All I can tell you is that my former 6+ had no problems whatsoever. No lagging, and great performance. My 7+ is likewise performing fine. And iOS 10.3.2 has no performance issues that I can detect.

Same here.
I used my 6 Plus for almost 2 years.
I did notice the improvement when I went up to my now 7 Plus but I wouldn't say the Plus was bad or like you mentioned you couldn't stand to use it.
 
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Same here.
I used my 6 Plus for almost 2 years.
I did notice the improvement when I went up to my now 7 Plus but I wouldn't say the Plus was bad or like you mentioned you couldn't stand to use it.
The most annoying thing about my old 6 + was the touch disease.
 

mr_oba

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It's interesting how we are differently sensitive to lag. The i6+ was nothing close to smooth or usable, in my preferences. I was so disappointed when I bought it... it was barely tolerable after my Note4, which was way smoother. I'm absolutely sure that the i7+ is more powerful than the i6+ in every way. I'm just curious that is there ANY stutter in everyday use. I may be over sensitive... but everyone says that iPhones are completely lag free devices. I just want to make sure that's its really true when it comes to the i7+.
 
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I'm absolutely sure that the i7+ is more powerful than the i6+ in every way. I'm just curious that is there ANY stutter in everyday use. I may be over sensitive... but everyone says that iPhones are completely lag free devices. I just want to make sure that's its really true when it comes to the i7+.

Exactly what do you consider a metric for what's considered every day use? My suggestion is go test one and determine where in comparison if you observe any lag. And I disagree, not everybody says iPhones are "Lag free." It completely depends on what you're doing with the iPhone, intensive applications, refresh rates, various media, etc. No one here can guarantee you that an iPhone 7 Plus won't have any lag at all. It's completely variable.
 
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mr_oba

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Exactly what do you consider a metric for what's considered every day use? My suggestion is go test one and determine where in comparison if you observe any lag. And I disagree, not everybody says iPhones are "Lag free." It completely depends on what you're doing with the iPhone, intensive applications, refresh rates, various media, etc. No one here can guarantee you that an iPhone 7 Plus won't have any lag at all. It's completely variable.

Everyday use for me is browsing the web, using Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, making photos and videos, checking my email... etc. Nothing too heavy. But with these simple tasks, my i6plus was laggy as hell. Especially when I was browsing the web and was using Facebook. The scroll was just pain in the #ss... very laggy, stuttering. I know the 7plus is better... it must be better.
 
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Applejuiced

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The most annoying thing about my old 6 + was the touch disease.

I never had that problem.
I know many did from flexing or bending but mine was straighter than an arrow.
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It's interesting how we are differently sensitive to lag. The i6+ was nothing close to smooth or usable, in my preferences. I was so disappointed when I bought it... it was barely tolerable after my Note4, which was way smoother. I'm absolutely sure that the i7+ is more powerful than the i6+ in every way. I'm just curious that is there ANY stutter in everyday use. I may be over sensitive... but everyone says that iPhones are completely lag free devices. I just want to make sure that's its really true when it comes to the i7+.

Go to a store and test it out for a while.
You should be able to tell if it's a good fit for you or not.
In the US there's a 14 day return window also. Not sure how it works in your country though with returns for full refund.
 
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OscarSalazar__

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It's interesting how we are differently sensitive to lag. The i6+ was nothing close to smooth or usable, in my preferences. I was so disappointed when I bought it... it was barely tolerable after my Note4, which was way smoother. I'm absolutely sure that the i7+ is more powerful than the i6+ in every way. I'm just curious that is there ANY stutter in everyday use. I may be over sensitive... but everyone says that iPhones are completely lag free devices. I just want to make sure that's its really true when it comes to the i7+.

The iPhone 7 Plus suffers from frame drops when closing or opening folders and also 3D touching apps, anyone who says that it doesn't is incorrect, every single 7+ I've messed with has issues with those two things now safari and general system performance is for the most part fluid but like I said it's not jank free there will be some frame drops and there will be some lag the App Store has loading jank and scrolling through your messages is the occasional jank you really have to go to an Apple Store and test it your self
 

mr_oba

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The iPhone 7 Plus suffers from frame drops when closing or opening folders and also 3D touching apps, anyone who says that it doesn't is incorrect, every single 7+ I've messed with has issues with those two things now safari and general system performance is for the most part fluid but like I said it's not jank free there will be some frame drops and there will be some lag the App Store has loading jank and scrolling through your messages is the occasional jank you really have to go to an Apple Store and test it your self

Thank you for your honest answer. That's not very good news, but you are right, I have to see it myself, if it's a deal breaker or not for me. Have you used an iPhone 7? Does it have the same issues you mentiond like the 7+?
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I never had that problem.
I know many did from flexing or bending but mine was straighter than an arrow.
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Go to a store and test it out for a while.
You should be able to tell if it's a good fit for you or not.
In the US there's a 14 day return window also. Not sure how it works in your country though with returns for full refund.

Yeah I will go to a store and check for myself. But I want to buy the phone on the used market, because I can't afford to buy a new one. So the returning option is not available :)
 
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OscarSalazar__

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Thank you for your honest answer. That's not very good news, but you are right, I have to see it myself, if it's a deal breaker or not for me. Have you used an iPhone 7? Does it have the same issues you mentiond like the 7+?

Two of my friends including my dad have the 7 and the difference is very minimal as I said before they both experience hiccups in the same spot which is surly software related like scrolling through messages widgets and opening folders etc. not a deal breaker for me on the 7 plus since it has a better camera better battery life and I love the big display still wouldn't take another phone over my 7+
 

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The iPhone 7 Plus suffers from frame drops when closing or opening folders and also 3D touching apps, anyone who says that it doesn't is incorrect, every single 7+ I've messed with has issues with those two things now safari and general system performance is for the most part fluid but like I said it's not jank free there will be some frame drops and there will be some lag the App Store has loading jank and scrolling through your messages is the occasional jank you really have to go to an Apple Store and test it your self

Not sure what 'jank' is and I'm definitely NOT Incorrect when I say "my iPhone 7+ Does not suffer from frame drops when closing/opening folders, OR when using 3D Touch apps". Period. End of story.
I'm not calling you a liar, but have a really hard time believing your experience, with multiple, similar devices are/has been what you claim. I've owned a pair of 7+s since launch and they're hands down the fastest, quickest, 'lag-free' devices in the iOS arsenal to date ...new iPad Pros aside - and the 6s+ still smokes current Android flagships! iOS has been and continues to be the best OS when it comes to lag-free experiences and low latency applications. Hence the reason for so few audio production/music making apps.

To the OP: as an owner of the 6+ for a year, I never felt as you did. If you bought the older iPhone a year after it came out, and the 2GB 6s models were available, the difference was apparent, not obvious with the apps you described
That said the iPhone 7/7+ is a three year tried and true design w/the engine, storage and RAM that exponentially improves upon the near three year old 6/6+!
 
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mr_oba

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Two of my friends including my dad have the 7 and the difference is very minimal as I said before they both experience hiccups in the same spot which is surly software related like scrolling through messages widgets and opening folders etc. not a deal breaker for me on the 7 plus since it has a better camera better battery life and I love the big display still wouldn't take another phone over my 7+

Thanks ;)
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Not sure what 'jank' is and I'm definitely NOT Incorrect when I say "my iPhone 7+ Does not suffer from frame drops when closing/opening folders, OR when using 3D Touch apps". Period. End of story.
I'm not calling you a liar, but have a really hard time believing your experience, with multiple, similar devices are/has been what you claim. I've owned a pair of 7+s since launch and they're hands down the fastest, quickest, 'lag-free' devices in the iOS arsenal to date ...new iPad Pros aside - and the 6s+ still smokes current Android flagships! iOS has been and continues to be the best OS when it comes to lag-free experiences and low latency applications. Hence the reason for so few audio production/music making apps.

To the OP: as an owner of the 6+ for a year, I never felt as you did. If you bought the older iPhone a year after it came out, and the 2GB 6s models were available, the difference was apparent, not obvious with the apps you described
That said the iPhone 7/7+ is a three year tried and true design w/the engine, storage and RAM that exponentially improves upon the near three year old 6/6+!

I bought my 6+ last summer, almost a year ago. Belive me if I say, it was a very very laggy phone with iOS 9.3.3. I tried 9.3.2 too, I tried restoring it and setting up as a new iPhone. It was a "new" device, the previous owner had it replaced in an apple store, because the old one had some issues and he got a brand new 6+. Scrolling, in general, in "web content" was choppy and laggy. I know facebook is not the best example, it's not a very well optimized app, but when I scrolled through my timeline (without any other app opened in the background) all I could see was lag, lag and lag.
 

mr_oba

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Guys, I just bought a 128 gb matte black i7 Plus and I have to say its not bad at all. It's way more smoother then the i6+ was. I can notice some minor lags here and there, but its okay, not a big deal. So I am happy that I purchased it, thank you for your help everyone! :)
 
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It's interesting how we are differently sensitive to lag. The i6+ was nothing close to smooth or usable, in my preferences. I was so disappointed when I bought it... it was barely tolerable after my Note4, which was way smoother. I'm absolutely sure that the i7+ is more powerful than the i6+ in every way. I'm just curious that is there ANY stutter in everyday use. I may be over sensitive... but everyone says that iPhones are completely lag free devices. I just want to make sure that's its really true when it comes to the i7+.

There is no way we can tell you if you will be happy with the 7+. Everyone has different expectations and there is no telling if it will make you happy.
 
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