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Questions for those that received TETHERING notice from AT&T

err404 said:
His analogy was far more accurate. Buffet service (unlimited) offers different pro's and cons compared to À La Carte service (metered).

À La Carte provides more selection, but the cost has not upper bound. The full menu is offered. The chef specials include a side of Tethering. Plate sharing is allowed, but there is a per person minimum.

Buffet provides all-you-can-eat and fixed prices. A limited selection is available, but there is no tray of Tethering. Plate sharing is not allowed and you are not offered a doggie bag.
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why must we continue with these analogies?

The food industry really has nothing to do with the telcom industry.

I think we all realize what we are and are not "legally" allowed to do with our data from att... doesn't mean everyone has to agree with att policies. The debate is rather pointless, if people want to tether, they are going to do it.
 
scottuf said:
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a man of many words I see, well your eloquent and well thought out argument has changed my mind. If only everyone could speek with the strong sense of self you have, and the inovative ideas you brought into the discusion.
 
chakraj said:
a man of many words I see, well your eloquent and well thought out argument has changed my mind. If only everyone could speek with the strong sense of self you have, and the inovative ideas you brought into the discusion.
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and you contributed a whole lot to the convo with this brilliant post!

fwiw i did post something, then decided it didn't add to the thread. but, since i don't see a delete post button anywhere, i subbed in the ..

now you know.
 
I thought I added a bit of humor to the thread, I guess that is in the eye of the beholder. I meant no harm to you personaly.
 
sorry if this has has been asked before..

has anybody been charged extra for tethering or lost their unlimited plan..?? cost you any money. ??

Ive found that my local at&t store is a good place to talk to them about jailbreak/3g unrestricted/get tools from them to take phones apart. they dont care. The bad thing is they are forty mile drive and ive not been by for a while and thought i would ask here..



PS I like pizza too...
 
Off the pizza discussion for a minute...

I received the infamous email today, and played as ignorant as possible with the CSR so she could educate me on tethering and how they "detected" my usage. The interesting thing she said was that this could be something that I did years or months ago, and nothing recent. They put a flag on my account at some point and now they generated a bunch of emails. I'm not certain I believe that, but bottom line is I denied even knowing how to tether.

Based on what I've read here, it's probably best to see if anyone comes up with a way to truly mask tethering so I don't show up on their radar prior to May 27th.

Just now looking at my usage which I reset on the 5th of every month, and I'm sitting at 268mb total for almost two weeks of usage (including some tethering), so while I probably won't go over the 4gb of usage in the new data plans, I certainly am in no hurry to give up my unlimited plan, errrr...buffet.
 
Interesting.

So, you told the CSR you had no idea
how to tether. Did the CSR buy that?

Did they still insist that if they saw
more "questionable" data coming through
your device that you would be forced into
a tethering plan, or, did they just say "okay,
we will leave you alone."?
 
NJRonbo said:
Interesting.

So, you told the CSR you had no idea
how to tether. Did the CSR buy that?

Did they still insist that if they saw
more "questionable" data coming through
your device that you would be forced into
a tethering plan, or, did they just say "okay,
we will leave you alone."?
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Not sure if she bought it or not, but they did say in the email that if they saw tethering activity they would switch my plan, and she said basically the same thing. She was actually quite earnest in explaining that there are many app store apps that could trigger tethering...I found that confusing!

She definitely did not say "okay we will leave you alone"!
 
Scirica,

Thanks for the information you have
provided.

I'm still tethering....but cautiously.

I have a business, and there are things
I need to upload while at work or on the
road when I don't have my home connection.

For the past two months, since AT&T has
been contacting people they have discovered
tethering, I have stayed just under 4GB of
usage per month.

Usually, I tether in very small increments.
10 minutes here, 10 minutes there. If I
do more than 20 minutes per day, that's a lot.

I figure sooner or later they will catch me.
And you know what? That's okay. I will gladly
pay $45 for 4GB of usage each month.

I'm just not going to volunteer myself until
they actually come after me. I am sort of
surprised I have stayed under the radar thus
far, but I would imagine, according to your
explanation, they just haven't flagged my
account yet to see what activity is going on.
 
Just got one today. :(
Curiously it happened as soon as my data use spiked. I was at <2gb and I spike to 5.5 and then 4. Has anyone figured out how to stop AT&T from detecting you?
If I am honest with them and just tell them that I won't tether again, will they let me keep my unlimited plan?
 
Yeah, I mean, they will send you a warning.

You stop tethering, you keep your unlimited data plan.

Just don't tether anymore.
 
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appleguy123 said:
Just got one today. :(
Curiously it happened as soon as my data use spiked. I was at <2gb and I spike to 5.5 and then 4. Has anyone figured out how to stop AT&T from detecting you?
If I am honest with them and just tell them that I won't tether again, will they let me keep my unlimited plan?
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PdaNet, MyWi, and TetherMe have not found a way to prevent AT&T from detecting them yet.

I actually have the $45 a month plan and when i use them I do see the tethering usage.
 
Sparky9292 said:
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8H7 Safari/6533.18.5)



PdaNet, MyWi, and TetherMe have not found a way to prevent AT&T from detecting them yet.

I actually have the $45 a month plan and when i use them I do see the tethering usage.
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How? Does it show up on your billing statement or online account?
I would love to know if there is a way.

Thanks
 
chakraj said:
Yes the all you can eat pizza buffet, does blow a hole in my analogy.

oh well.

I am still hungry.
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Not necessarily again it's all "you" can eat.

You paid for the all you can eat it's not like you're bringing your mom's, sister's, step brother's, best friend's, dog to the meal.

All that's simply happening is you and only you are simply using different plates to bring the back to the table to eat. (read as using different means to utilize the data you already paid for)

This is obviously just at&t making a quick buck which sucks but it's their TOS we agreed to so we have to abide by it. So now at&t want's to decide which plate we eat off of, the mobile phone business is ridiculous.

You guys think you have it bad up here in Canada it's brutal.
 
tble said:
Not necessarily again it's all "you" can eat.

You paid for the all you can eat it's not like you're bringing your mom's, sister's, step brother's, best friend's, dog to the meal.
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Re-read my post that chakraj was replying to. The 'all you can eat buffet' is an exact analogy.
 
TC25 said:
No one knows if this is true. Please stop spreading lies.
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Well, I think we would know if they had found a way. We've been at this for a while! I will probably move to the tethering plan once forced to, but I'm going to lay low for a while. Still cheaper than a data plan for an iPad I believe.
 
Just got an email from AT&T about my tethering today. Funny thing is, I haven't even tethered since I got home from college, at least 3 weeks ago. I guess I'll just play it safe and not tether again for a couple months? Or can I actually never tether again?

For the record -- When I did tether, I never did it enough to put me over my data limit. I would use it 5 minutes tops a day, just to use dropbox on my laptop or something of the sort.
 
Jimmyneedles said:
Just got an email from AT&T about my tethering today. Funny thing is, I haven't even tethered since I got home from college, at least 3 weeks ago. I guess I'll just play it safe and not tether again for a couple months? Or can I actually never tether again?

For the record -- When I did tether, I never did it enough to put me over my data limit. I would use it 5 minutes tops a day, just to use dropbox on my laptop or something of the sort.
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Was it the same email that we got, stating that tethering has been detected on your account and your plan doesn't include tethering? Did they give you a date by which you needed to call them and "opt out" of them automatically moving you to the 4gb tethering plan? Doing nothing indicates to them you want to start the tethering plan. Be sure to call or log in to avoid that.
 
scirica said:
Well, I think we would know if they had found a way. We've been at this for a while!
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(Replying in the OP format) :D

People who have received
the email have indicated
ATT told them it is not
necessarily the result of
recent tethering. Assuming
the ATT CSR is telling the
truth, the tethering could
have happened long before
PDANet, et. al, implemented
stealth technology.
 
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