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Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by twoodcc, Jun 15, 2009.
some of my friends were just talking about this movie. does Two-Face die at the end?
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Yes, I think we are led to believe that Harvey Dent dies, but many don't think that Two-Face died and believe that he will be in the third Batman (if there is one).
Wasn't there a funeral for him?
There was a funeral for Harvey Dent, but there was no casket. Also, Batman said "Harvey Dent is dead, Two-Face lives on" at the end.
thanks for replies.
it's been awhile since i've seen the movie, and i couldn't remember. i know it appeared as if he died. but couldn't remember if he really did or not
Uhm... any chance I watched a different TDK than you did?
I think we're supposed to think he dies so it's a big shocker for the next movie!! They're going to have to kill off the Joker somehow for the next movie, maybe it will be something like he dies off-screen.. Unless they'll get another actor to play the part (and hopefully not make the character suck).
No he didn't.
Says who? There's nothing wrong with simply leaving him out of the script.
Not sure if he's really dead, in the comic books he lives on the become a fully fledged criminal. Don't want to get into one of those canon debates, but it's a reference point at least I guess where there's an ambiguity in the film.
Are they even going to make a Batman 3? I thought that was still up in the air. God knows how they'll dead with the Joker - what a terrible loss to cinema Heath Ledger dying was. I know that's selfish, but he was an actor after all, and I wouldn't mind seeing him act again in Batman 3
Ditto that. I've only seen the movie once, but I don't remember any of that.
It won't be a big shocker at all if Aaron Eckhart is seen even a single time on the set.
They do not have to kill the Joker. That was the biggest mistake (in a series of colossal mistakes) the first series of movies made. You can't kill Batman's archenemy. You just can't.
They can just have him in Arkham and never show him, and then at some point (two, three movies down the line...if they get that far) they can bring him back using another actor.
I guess I was mistaken about Batman saying that phrase at the very end. I could have sworn that someone said something along the lines of "Harvey Dent is dead, two face lives on".
Although, I could have been drinking.
Another question (possible spoiler):
When Batman had to choose who to save, didn't he decide to save the girl, but ended up at Harvey Dent's place??? I was watching this on HBO the other night and it seemed different than when I saw it in the theaters. Anyone know???
It seemed to me from the HBO version, which I assumed to be identical to the original, that Batman decided to go after the girl but got tricked by the Joker. But from the theater version, he decided to go after Harvey and explained why. Am I nuts???
^^Nah ah, he wanted to save Dent because he assumed that Harvey would be the "new face" of Gotham as the D.A.; meaning that he [Batman] could hang up the cape/cowl. Rachel was expendable so I interpreted as him basing his decision on the "greater good". I could be completely off, but doubt it.
I believe Christopher Nolan (director) said Harvey Dent/Two Face is indeed dead as far as he is concerned with the story.
I think Batman went to save Rachel Dawes and sent Gordon and others to save Dent but when Batman made it to the warehouse he realised that Dawes and Dent weren't in the warehouses they thought they were in (Joker's trick) - Batman goes on and saves Dent anyway. Gordon arrives too late to save Rachel Dawes so she dies..
Yeah - the Joker lied about who was at which address. Batman thought he was saving Rachel, but ended up at the place where Dent was.
S'all good, though. Rachel was never a very interesting character.