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I never thought about that stuff with Wikipedia. All these corporations use it in a fundamental level for various services but they don’t really give back. $50000 is pretty weak from Apple.
 
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Shame on those tech companies who don’t at least donate directly to Wikipedia in addition to encouraging employee donations! Apple and Amazon specifically. They do profit from Siri and Alexa having the ability to query Wikipedia. At a minimum Apple should work with Wikipedia to allow users to donate with Apple Pay and Amazon should work with them to allow users to donate with One Click at no cost to Wikipedia. I figured Apple was doing more behind the scenes to help them out and I was surprised I still couldn’t donate with Apple Pay when they had their last fund raiser.
 
Wikipedia is already an extremely biased source of info for everything with a hint of politics in it. Why don't they just monetize it already? They could be flowing in cash and hire some independent people to clean up the mess that is every article with a whiff of controversy. They have so many page views - just a tiny bit of advertising would go a long way toward solving their problems. Google and Amazon and Apple get wikipedia for free? That resource is probably worth 100-500 million a year to those companies. Just start charging them something. Google gave a million. HAHA. That is the best spent money ever - what a deal!
 
Nobody cares, nor should they, but I’ve moved on from the Apple Watch until they change the design. I got bored with it after being in the first batch of people to buy one.

Did you move on to another smart watch or ditch a smart watch altogether?

I love the watch for the notifications while the phone is in my pocket, seeing whose calling while my phone is on vibrate without taking it out of my pocket, being able to decline a call and the ability to use Siri to dictate a text message while I’m driving without taking my eyes off the road. I only ever did it once, but the ability to make a phone call really helped me out one time.

I keep my spare car and house keys in my wallet and one time managed to lock my keys, wallet and phone in my car. Being able to use it to make a phone call to my wife to have her grab a spare car key that I keep at home was priceless that day.

I never had expectations that third party apps were going to work well on it so while many may have been disappointed with how that’s played out it’s exceeded my expectations.

I have the original and considered buying the LTE version but figured I’d be better off waiting until the next generation while Apple worked out the kinks with it in case any issues were hardware based and couldn’t be fixed by software.

I’m curious what other smart watches that can work with the iPhone can do in comparison to what you get with the Apple Watch.
 
The only reason Apple should be afraid to have Spotify at the event is if they don't think Apple Music is good enough to win against the competition. Apple's platform needs to be more open and support choices. Then let their stuff compete on its own merit, and its "inside" integration which should give it a huge advantage. I use Spotify, and this would be something that would interest me in possibly returning to using Apple products more.
That’s not even a real argument... why would Walmart put up an ad for Target inside their stores (ESPECIALLY for free). It doesn’t matter whether or not Walmart thinks it has a better product, it just doesn’t make any fiscal sense.
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Wikipedia is already an extremely biased source of info for everything with a hint of politics in it. Why don't they just monetize it already? They could be flowing in cash and hire some independent people to clean up the mess that is every article with a whiff of controversy. They have so many page views - just a tiny bit of advertising would go a long way toward solving their problems. Google and Amazon and Apple get wikipedia for free? That resource is probably worth 100-500 million a year to those companies. Just start charging them something. Google gave a million. HAHA. That is the best spent money ever - what a deal!
Monetizing Wikipedia would literally go against everything they stand for.
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They made a big deal out of Amazon Prime coming to Apple TV, so I don’t see why not. Apple is still primarily a hardware company. When an incredibly popular app/service comes to their hardware, they’re going to mention it, because it helps drive sales.
Of course they would. They did exactly that already with Prime. Doing so would do a world of good for Apple. The number one reason some people hate Apple, besides the high cost of their devices/computers, is that it's a "walled gargen" that doesn't work with anything else. Allowing Spotify to work natively on the watch and making a big deal about it would be huge for them.
Amazon Prime isn’t something they directly compete with.
 
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That’s not even a real argument... why would Walmart put up an ad for Target inside their stores (ESPECIALLY for free). It doesn’t matter whether or not Walmart thinks it has a better product, it just doesn’t make any fiscal sense.

You are comparing, pardon the pun, apples to oranges. Apple makes the vast majority of its money selling hardware.

If having the Spotify app on the Apple Watch means it can move more $329+ dollar smart watches and keep users locked into the iPhone hardware ecosystem then it makes great financial sense to advertise that the most popular music subscription service in the world has an app that works on your hardware platform.

Once you get a user locked into your hardware platform, then you work on selling them your services but even if they never switch, you’re still making a profit on the phones and smart watches you’re selling them.

Walmart, on the other hand, doesn’t make a dime if they redirect a sale to Target. Not true if Apple sells a user a profitable phone and watch but doesn’t make a sale on their music subscription service.
 
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That’s not even a real argument... why would Walmart put up an ad for Target inside their stores (ESPECIALLY for free). It doesn’t matter whether or not Walmart thinks it has a better product, it just doesn’t make any fiscal sense.

more like why does nike let foot locker sell their shoes when they could make higher margins on a sale at a nike store?

Apple and Spotify are competitors at the same level that Apple and Otterbox are competitors for both offering iPhone cases.
 
They already have. They doubled the CPU speed, but you need new hardware for that.
First, with how slow they are, I’m not sure doubling the cpu speedis enough.

Second, new hardware isn’t really addressing the underlying software problem. Plenty of people with new watches conplain about speed too. It’s clear something about watchOS is broken.
 
So if I’m reading this right, the Spotify for Apple Watch app will rely on StreamKit, which will be a developer framework available for WatchOS 5, which won’t go public until September - so if the rumor is true, the Spotify app won’t be available until September at the earliest?
 
You are comparing, pardon the pun, apples to oranges. Apple makes the vast majority of its money selling hardware.

If having the Spotify app on the Apple Watch means it can move more $329+ dollar smart watches and keep users locked into the iPhone hardware ecosystem then it makes great financial sense to advertise that the most popular music subscription service in the world has an app that works on your hardware platform.

Once you get a user locked into your hardware platform, then you work on selling them your services but even if they never switch, you’re still making a profit on the phones and smart watches you’re selling them.

Walmart, on the other hand, doesn’t make a dime if they redirect a sale to Target. Not true if Apple sells a user a profitable phone and watch but doesn’t make a sale on their music subscription service.

Increasingly the future revenue growth story for Apple is services. They are constantly banging the services drum now during their earnings calls, how fast they are growing and expanding services revenue.

What most likely will happen is - Spotify will announce an app for Apple Watch, Spotify will promote the app, and Apple will be happy for any increase in device sales as a result. Apple won't be motivated to try and drive people to buy Spotify subscriptions, even if some of them do indeed take place within iOS and ensure they receive a cut. I'd be astonished if Apple gave Spotify any of the spotlight during one of their flagship events.
 
Apple / Wikipedia: Shame on Apple.

I am getting so frustrated over this "cultural flatrate" which for some seems to mean: free-for-all. There are way too many people thinking that if it's on the internet it has to be free (and if it isn't they steal it.)

There are people behind it, there is work behind it, there are computers behind it and those have to be paid. For crying out loud, Apple: Pay it up, everything else just adds to the hypocracy of trying to be "en vogue" and liberal while cashing in like the rest of them.
 
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The app will supposedly be a lead example of Apple's tentatively named StreamKit framework that will enable cellular Apple Watch models to receive push notifications from third-party apps like Facebook and Twitter, completely independent from a paired iPhone, on watchOS 5.

I don't know where MR is getting that from. It doesn't make sense at all.

  • Streaming has nothing to do with push notifications
  • The Apple Watch is already capable of playing streaming audio and video, and receiving push notifications
  • The cellular Apple Watch models extend all of those existing capabilities to a different radio

Maybe you heard this over the phone during traffic, and what you heard was that Apple was extending SiriKit to third-party music Apps? That would be essential for a Spotify watch app. Siri is a major part of the Watch UI.

The AI post you link to doesn't mention it. The original source (the third-party dev's reddit post) also says nothing about any "StreamKit".

The watchOS developer experience right now is terrible. I'd really welcome some improvements, but ad-hoc frameworks for one-off Apps isn't the way.
 
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i agree. i have not purchased an apple watch. One of the main reasons for this is that i am a spotify user and like to use this for my running. the introduction of spotify would seriously make me reconsider and probably purchase a watch rather than carry an iphone around whilst running
 
Did you move on to another smart watch or ditch a smart watch altogether?

I love the watch for the notifications while the phone is in my pocket, seeing whose calling while my phone is on vibrate without taking it out of my pocket, being able to decline a call and the ability to use Siri to dictate a text message while I’m driving without taking my eyes off the road. I only ever did it once, but the ability to make a phone call really helped me out one time.

I keep my spare car and house keys in my wallet and one time managed to lock my keys, wallet and phone in my car. Being able to use it to make a phone call to my wife to have her grab a spare car key that I keep at home was priceless that day.

I never had expectations that third party apps were going to work well on it so while many may have been disappointed with how that’s played out it’s exceeded my expectations.

I have the original and considered buying the LTE version but figured I’d be better off waiting until the next generation while Apple worked out the kinks with it in case any issues were hardware based and couldn’t be fixed by software.

I’m curious what other smart watches that can work with the iPhone can do in comparison to what you get with the Apple Watch.

I’m trying a Garmin Vivoactive 3 after trying a Ticwatch E and a Samsung Gear Sport in quick succession (thank you, Best Buy). I’m enjoying it a lot but I know it’s inevitably just a stop gap. I’m loving the battery life - no more worrying about packing a charger if I go away for a weekend. I take a charger for longer times away from home because I use the watch for fitness tracking.
 
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I really hope this is ultimately what happened to Spotty/Snowy (https://snowy.rocks) which was written by a really cool developer a few years ago. It's been mired in legal uncertainties, and if I recall correctly, the developer may have joined spotify. From his descriptions on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/5ojyiw/an_update_on_spotty_a_spotify_app_for_the_apple/) of the app all the time ago about how it supported offline mode it's been something we really should have had a long time ago.
Read the reddit post, it's really chock full of interesting stuff to expect. If this app is anything less than what was developed independently years ago, we should be very angry with Spotify.
 
Increasingly the future revenue growth story for Apple is services. They are constantly banging the services drum now during their earnings calls, how fast they are growing and expanding services revenue.

What most likely will happen is - Spotify will announce an app for Apple Watch, Spotify will promote the app, and Apple will be happy for any increase in device sales as a result. Apple won't be motivated to try and drive people to buy Spotify subscriptions, even if some of them do indeed take place within iOS and ensure they receive a cut. I'd be astonished if Apple gave Spotify any of the spotlight during one of their flagship events.

I agree completely. I was just trying to point out that Apple does have financial incentive to have these apps out there. They may not make an Apple Music sale but if the app allows them to make an Apple Watch sale and keeps a user in the iPhone ecosystem they will make money. I’d be shocked if they devoted any kind of serious time to it at an event but I wouldnt be shocked if they did what they did with the Prime TV app and announce its coming.

I had an a 4th gen Apple TV and was looking at alternative potential 4K replacements not from Apple until they announced the Prime video app. My wife and I are Prime subscribers and Prime often has free movie content we watch or offers a better deal on movie rentals than you get through iTunes. Though you can airplay the content it’s not the same as a native app so that announcement, even though the app didn’t arrive for months, kept us in the Apple ecosystem so I can see them mentioning it but not devoting more than a sentence or two talking about it when the get to the Apple Watch portion of the event.
 
I’m trying a Garmin Vivoactive 3 after trying a Ticwatch E and a Samsung Gear Sport in quick succession (thank you, Best Buy). I’m enjoying it a lot but I know it’s inevitably just a stop gap. I’m loving the battery life - no more worrying about packing a charger if I go away for a weekend. I take a charger for longer times away from home because I use the watch for fitness tracking.

What did you think of the TicWatch?
 
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