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If you use QuickBooks for Mac, as I do, you are basically forced to update the program every time OSX changes. QuickBooks almost never works when a new version of OSX comes out, and you are forced to either not update your OS, or purchase a new copy of QuickBooks. I have now repurchased QuickBooks 4 times. It must be said that every year instead of paying the full $199 price, owners of the program are sometimes offered to re buy at the discounted price of $179!

I run it in a VM, so I don't have to update every year.
 
I was happy to abandon Quicken and iBank seemed the way to go. Quicken had these quirks that chapped me when I was entering data, etc. iBank- different quirks but similar nonsense. Been such a slight improvement it was a shock.

You mean like not having auto-fill in the description field so you have to type the same thing over and over, or trying to tab to the next field and end up taking to the next transaction? Unfortunately I could keep going. Seems like seriously slow development and few and far updates with little to no added or updated features. Lack of iCloud integration for syncing between devices is silly at this point. They want you to pay to use their proprietary solution instead of just using iCloud.
 
And what about Quickbooks for MacOS?

Not related to this in any way. This is only for Quicken - the spin-off of a minor product in Intuit's product line. I dare you to find Quicken in the company's financial reports. It turns out it's a footnote - "consumer ecosystem." It's a tiny piece of the company's business. Small Business (Quickbooks) and Consumer Tax (TurboTax) dominate the company's revenues.

The solution for Quickbooks for Mac is Quickbooks Online. Trust me on this, it's the right way to go. The modern business is more likely than ever to be working in a mixed Windows/Mac environment - the cloud overcomes that issue (it did for my business).
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Does anyone know if this will affect Mint or TurboTax?
Nope. Just Quicken. As I noted in another reply, Quicken is a small, small part of Intuit's business. TurboTax is huge. Mint is cloud-based, which is consistent with the company's approach to Quickbooks (Quickbooks Online). Cloud is the right solution in a mixed Windows/Mac world.
 
The Intuit and, by extension, Quicken brands have become toxic for me. It'll be hard to change that, even under new ownership.

)Cloud is the right solution in a mixed Windows/Mac world.
Not if it's aggregating all of my finances! Noooo thank you. I'll keep my data on my own machine, thank you...
 
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...so we can do the work we need to do to bring Mac closer to the feature set of Windows over the next quarters and years.

LOL! How many times have we heard this before Intuit? Even with this new commitment, they've stopped short of bringing actual parity with their Windows product. Intuit's position has been nothing less than insulting to Mac users for many years now. I'm glad Apple finally gave the useless Bill Campbell the boot from their board of directors.

Anyone with half a brain on the Mac side has moved on. I've been much happier with iBank / Banktivity for years now. I wouldn't switch back to Quicken under any circumstance at this point.
 
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The big thing for me is the forecasted daily balance of my checking account. My recurring bills (and deposits) are setup within Quicken, so I can look 30-45-60 days in the future to see what my daily checking account balance will be.
Looking into the future is pretty easy for me. Tomorrow, my account balance will be zero. Next month: zero. Ninety days from now: still zero.

We finally opened a separate checking account just for bills. I know how much we need every month, and I just dump that in the account and kindof forget about it (though I do actually keep track of the specifics). Now, when I look at my regular checking, I don't have to worry about whether I'm taking away from money needed for bills. For longer term expenses, we use a savings account the same way.

You're right about the long term tracking. I wouldn't have thought that would have been particular useful other than for historical interest, but it seems you've found a good reason.
 
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Folks,

This isn't about QuickBooks, TurboTax, Lacerte, etc - all of which are still owned and managed/developed (such as it is) by Intuit.

ONLY the Quicken product lines - both Mac and Windows - have been sold to HIG Capital. Intuit has been looking for a buyer for some time. A big mistake in my view, as Intuit bets on their CEO's own Mint online product and the cloud - which many of us object to for security and availability reasons.

The Quicken engineering/product management has absolutely nothing to do with QuickBooks or other Intuit products - which are still under the same Intuit teams.

We are led to believe the all/most of the Intuit staff associated with Quicken are still with Quicken at the new corporate home. That they will receive increased resources is at least hopeful, as both Quicken Windows and Quicken Mac have an insane number of issues that have been addressed too slowly.

(QuickBooks - an Intuit product - is another story for another thread about Intuit/Quickbooks vs HIG Capital/Quicken. But my 2 cents after reading the above negative comments is that I've found QuickBooks Mac 2016 is vastly superior to QuickBooks Windows in usability/fun for the things that it does... except for Payroll which sucks. QB Mac only uses online payroll and for the same price of Windows desktop payroll, it is a dim shadow in functionality and accounting integration.)
Ah, someone who actually knows what this company does. A CPA, perhaps?

My only real disagreement regards the comments re Mint and the cloud. The numbers on Intuit's financials regarding Quickbooks Online adoption are a strong indication that cloud is an acceptable answer for very large numbers of customers. It's definitely better to build one code base than two, and speaking as someone who tried to make Quickbooks work in a multi-user, multi-site, mixed-OS environment... the cloud was the right solution for us.

In the case of personal financial software, platform-specific solutions are probably still viable products, but still, there's a significant number of people who want mobile apps that sync with the desktop, and that syncing these days is more likely to be cloud-based than hardwired. iOS > Mac, Android > Mac, iOS > Windows, Android > Windows...

I also wonder whether Quicken, once separated from Intuit's clout, will lose the cooperation of banking institutions when it comes time to offer banking customers transaction transfer solutions. Will they ever again be able to implement a "standard" like QIF or QFX?

Certainly, there are huge trust issues involved in using the cloud for anything. But considering how deeply embedded cloud-based solutions are for all sorts of financial transactions... Unless you wait for your monthly paper statements and pay only with paper checks, isn't it "in for a penny, in for a pound?"
 
Folks,

This isn't about QuickBooks, TurboTax, Lacerte, etc - all of which are still owned and managed/developed (such as it is) by Intuit.

ONLY the Quicken product lines - both Mac and Windows - have been sold to HIG Capital. Intuit has been looking for a buyer for some time. A big mistake in my view, as Intuit bets on their CEO's own Mint online product and the cloud - which many of us object to for security and availability reasons.

The Quicken engineering/product management has absolutely nothing to do with QuickBooks or other Intuit products - which are still under the same Intuit teams.

We are led to believe the all/most of the Intuit staff associated with Quicken are still with Quicken at the new corporate home. That they will receive increased resources is at least hopeful, as both Quicken Windows and Quicken Mac have an insane number of issues that have been addressed too slowly.

(QuickBooks - an Intuit product - is another story for another thread about Intuit/Quickbooks vs HIG Capital/Quicken. But my 2 cents after reading the above negative comments is that I've found QuickBooks Mac 2016 is vastly superior to QuickBooks Windows in usability/fun for the things that it does... except for Payroll which sucks. QB Mac only uses online payroll and for the same price of Windows desktop payroll, it is a dim shadow in functionality and accounting integration.)

Yes, no inter action with accountants kills Quibooks for Mac for my wife's business.
 
I wish Yahoo would finally make their site Safari friendly. Everything Yahoo works like ass on a Mac.
Yahoo sucks even more since Mayer took over as CEO.
 
Yep my father in law switched back to the Windows version (via VMFusion) because he got tired of working with the Mac version.
My wife has to run hers on Parallels..... this is the ONLY reason Windows is on her Mac.
Why? Because QuickBooks for Mac can not create an accountant copy of all things.
Intuit believes Mac users aren't supposed to be able to use CPA's I guess.
 
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As an IT person that supports Accounting firms, how about you FIX quickbooks on Windows first, hell - just in general - FIX it. Then work on your other stuff. Oh, you're too busy selling loans and buying up companies.

Heh…thought you, given your description, might appreciate this: one of my clients uses the Maps|Directions feature of QBPro/Premier 2015 quite extensively. (A Maps|Directions link appears when viewing a Customer profile, which pops a IEview portal to a Intuit/Google Maps page.) They use it to help with job scheduling and then print directions/maps for their technicians' daily "job packets". It stopped working about a month ago; took them a about week and half to call me to check out why. 3hrs on the phone with Support, couldn't get it escalated without a screen sharing session…of course, I wasn't onsite. Thankfully the IE portal error message was specific enough to point me to the actual webapp service hostname, so I could actually reproduce it from home in Safari on my Mac. It was obviously (to me, an old Ops Jockey) an application server load/inbound load-balancer problem. Scheduled an onsite, IMPLORING support tech as to how important it is not to send me onsite and waste me and our customer's time/money; she fails to call me that day. Eventually I took to Twitter, the @QBCares team. The mapping service app servers were pretty clearly not responding to all HTTP requests, so that was easy to prove. And it was seemingly time-dependent (worst early in the morning Eastern Time). You'd think that would have gotten fixed, quick, right?? Nope. Another week fighting it. Finally QB Support posted http://support.quickbooks.intuit.com/support/articles/SLN96922 last week, never even bothered to update me. "Use another map provider service." It has been down over a month and it's pretty obvious Intuit doesn't do baseline performance/up-time monitoring of their own web application servers. Oh Intuit…
 
Yeah, renaming it to Banktivity is funny

I agree that less mouse interaction would speed things up. The only other things i wish for would be a preference to turn off "Create Import Rule" so i don't have to keep unchecking it, and different colours / design / aesthetic for the report lists so i can more easily tell whats going on/ what category Im looking at.


Their logic for changing the name was really convoluted.

Maybe some simple stuff that should be there is patented and the don't want to pay a fee.

Like:

Hitting "Return" goes to the next entry field?
Fixing weird check sequences. Even when selected after an entry
the check numbers jump anyplace.

But, for now it puts Quicken for Mac in the dust.
 
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I'd normally concur with that sentiment, but not for this clown show. Intuit deserves zero credit here.
But this is not about Intuit. It's about a *NEW company taking it over and what they are going to do with it.
 
When I was looking at Quickbooks recently, it looked to me like their pricing is pushing everyone to the online version. Wouldn't that solve the Mac version problem?
 
I tried Quickbooks for the mac, and it sucked so bad. It screwed up item numbers, truncated item descriptions, it made a mess of the whole thing, and when I went back to the windows version, it was just crazy how much crap I found that the mac version screwed up.

If it wasn't for it being so easy to use, I would have dumped it in a New York minute.

I was so unimpressed, and traumatized by their 'tech support'. One 'engineer' told me to go back to the mac version. *GRRRRR*
 
So did Quicken finally figure out that all those folks in the coffee shop using Macs and barely a PC in sight was actually some indication of real world use of the two operating systems? Did they finally figure out that yes huge numbers of PCs are sold each year but many of them are sold to enterprise systems for dedicated usage and a personal financial program was never going to get installed on them?
 
So did Quicken finally figure out that all those folks in the coffee shop using Macs and barely a PC in sight was actually some indication of real world use of the two operating systems? Did they finally figure out that yes huge numbers of PCs are sold each year but many of them are sold to enterprise systems for dedicated usage and a personal financial program was never going to get installed on them?

Nah. They usually don't think that far ahead.
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I finally gave up on Quicken and switched to iBank when bill pay stopped working temporarily. As a few posters have said, it gets the job done, but it's still not as functional as Quicken 2007. However, at this point, transferring my data (I have more than 20 years of financial records and multiple accounts in iBank/Banktivity) would be so painful that the new version of Quicken would have to be able to cook breakfast for me to switch back. I also wonder how big the market for personal financial software is these days now that bank websites offer much of the same functionality.
 
When I was looking at Quickbooks recently, it looked to me like their pricing is pushing everyone to the online version. Wouldn't that solve the Mac version problem?
I believe you can't manage multiple accounts with the online version. You would have to buy a license for each business you have and that is not very economical for many people.
 
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