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In your software update... Quicktime 6.1.1

QuickTime 6.1.1 delivers important bug fixes to MPEG-4 streaming.

A Quicktime update was expected, however, the software update description is very limited, and appears only to be a bug-fix release, then necessarily tied to other updates (iTunes, iPod, Apple-Music Service).
 

nickgold

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imovie 3

is this solving imovie 3 quicktime export problems I've heard mention of?

[moderator edit] 1st posts aren't something to celebrate[/moderator edit]
 
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Codemonkey

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Apr 22, 2002
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At the risk of sounding like another conspiracy theory zealot... 20mb "dot dot" releases for a video player seem large to me...

I wonder if they're installing anything that the rumored "music service" could make use of in the back door?
 
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AhmedFaisal

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The MP3 Bug is still there *grumbles*

When will Apple finally get it in their thick skulls that MP3 in AVIs is a quasi standard now no matter if that is in spec or not??? Man they are as stubborn as Microsoft when it comes to this issue....:mad:

Ahmed
 
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Java

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Jan 13, 2003
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20 meg update?

Ok, I am not a rocket scientist, but it does seem a litle strange for a quicktime update that "only" fixes a bug in the mpeg-4 streams, to be 20 megs.
 
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wsteineker

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Jul 17, 2001
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Hey Java

Hey Java, I think it's fair to say that you have what has to be, beyond any shadow of a doubt, the BEST sigs on this board. :)

That said, I also found it a little strange that a dot dot update was this big. That's either one hell of a bug or a whole lot of something we're not being told about.
 
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Codemonkey

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Apr 22, 2002
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Re: The MP3 Bug is still there *grumbles*

Originally posted by AhmedFaisal
When will Apple finally get it in their thick skulls that MP3 in AVIs is a quasi standard now no matter if that is in spec or not??? Man they are as stubborn as Microsoft when it comes to this issue....:mad:

Ahmed

If developers caved in to every hack just 'cause dumb users had the ability to do it, there would be _no_ such thing as spec, or standards or even any semblance of order.

Case in point: web browsers. Proprietary tags, layouts "open to interpretation", automatically closing open/broken/invalidly nested tags has put the entire industry behind due to this 'leniancy'.

Lets remove signal lights from cars too - 'cause in reality most people don't use them.
 
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Steradian

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Dec 3, 2002
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Re: imovie 3

Originally posted by nickgold
is this solving imovie 3 quicktime export problems I've heard mention of?

Edit: FIRST POST in da HIZOUSE -- ME SO KEEEWWWL!!!! heheheh
Hey, why don't you read the rules before you spam...Here

ok...
Anyway I love apple updates even if they are as minor as this, maybe this will make my already "perfect" system even better :D
 
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eric_n_dfw

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File size means little

Just because the file size is large means a lot has changed.

It depends on where the change is and how the application is built. If they changed something that affects the whole app, even one line would cause the whole thing to be rebuilt.
<geek stuff>
i.e. If this is Objective-C or C++, and I change a "#define" in a header file for some value used throughout the app, the whole app might change.
</geek stuff>
 
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elfin buddy

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Not so weird

I don't find it so weird that a "dot dot" update to QuickTime is 20 Megs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't every QuickTime update in recent memory been around 20 Megs? I think it's just the way Apple chooses to do things. They just want everyone to do a complete re-install of QuickTime everytime they update. I don't understand it, but I think it's a lot more believeable that conspiracies :D

Nonetheless, I still find it annoying, because I just downloaded QuickTime 6.1 about a week ago on a dial-up line, and I'm already obsolete ;)

Dammit!
 
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vanillamike

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Jan 7, 2003
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Coincidence that the update is just before a Tuesday, I hope not I want the iPod revision! Maybe this is going to incorporate AAC support somehow;) Dreaming in Technicolor over here.

Mike
 
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pgwalsh

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Jun 21, 2002
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the 20 meg is the new Apple bloat sw standard. They just want you to think you're getting more than you really are. If you're lucky enough to figure it out, you can find the hidden SJ home video of him running around naked in his backyard with Al. :rolleyes:

I'm in a weird mood. :(
 
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King Cobra

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>Nonetheless, I still find it annoying, because I just downloaded QuickTime 6.1 about a week ago on a dial-up line, and I'm already obsolete ;) (elfin buddy)

Welcome to my world.

If you dial-up users are reading this and haven't already downloaded from the Software Update control panel, you can save the 20MB update on your computer so you don't have to download it for each computer [shivers].

In your control panel, check the Quicktime update. Then select, in the menu items, Update > Download Checked Items To Desktop. When the download is complete, a package called QuicktimeSU will be on your desktop.

--Haxie following below: Saving the physical Quicktime file being downloaded from the Software Update Control Panel--

If you want to get real techie about it (especially if you don't have Stuffit Deluxe or DropStuff), check out your Hard Drive folder in Library > Caches > Software Update > com.apple.SoftwareUpdate and investigate one of the akamai.net folders, in which the last directory will show your currently active download.

The tricky part is to save the file just as the download is complete. To do this, keep your Software Update panel progress bar visible, as well as the window with your Quicktime file. (To confirm that you are checking the correct file, get info on it and check the modification date. It should be about the same as the current set date for your computer.) Once you have done this and your window is set for the visible file, have your hands ready to press the option key and the mouse. As soon as the pulsing progress bar becomes smooth and the download is complete, hit the option key and drag the Quicktime file to your desktop. Do this because once Software Update finishes the download the Quicktime file in the Software Update Cache will be removed.

Now check to see if the tar file you just copied works. Double-click on it. As long as you can get to the installer you did this successfully.

You could also just stuff the QuicktimeSU package. :)
 
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VegetaPunk

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Dec 30, 2002
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Mpeg-4 streaming.....when is iTunes going to support this?? ie Being able to rip MP4s instead of MP3s
 
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King Cobra

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iTunes is going to get an update, iTunes 4, which will support .aac (MPEG-4 audio), as well as rip and encode it. Allegedly this update is due April.
 
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A@ron

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May 2, 2002
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You mean AAC I believe not MP4. AAC is simply the audio encoding used by MP4 IIRC. iTunes will support AAC streaming utalizing zeroconf (name begins with an r) ;) soon. I expect it about at the time of the TiVo Series 2 beta test conclusion when they will release their goodies to stream audio from iTunes. Just wild speculation on my part but I suspect 2-3 months as a time frame. Not like I really know anything for sure :rolleyes:

A@ron
 
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ReelFocused

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Mar 31, 2003
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Maybe its not really an update...

...but a full installer instead. Perhaps it uninstalls the previous version and replaces it with 6.1.1.
 
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buseman

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Dec 8, 2002
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Crap.. Since it was supposed to fix mpeg4 streaming, I went to the only mpeg 4 stream I know the MWSF stream and it always crashes QT..

Not a good update then:rolleyes:
 
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gMac

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Apr 1, 2003
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Probably a stupid newbie question but: This is the second time I have downloaded an update to A non-iTunes app and have noticed iTunes visuals seem different. Is this just my imagination or has anyone else noticed this?
 
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LordRPI

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Jan 25, 2002
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Originally posted by peterjhill
There are plenty of multicast MP4 streams on the Internet2 (http://www.internet2.edu) backbone. AVI may be okay for low bandwidth stuff, but give me a 1 mbps MP4 stream any day.

Back in the I2 office, yes I used to intern there, some of us *REALLY* complained about the AVI/mp3 stuff...
 
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