You can also do it with a one line applescriptgnasher729 said:
tell application "QuickTime Player" to present front movie scale screen
this works on the free version...
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tell application "QuickTime Player" to present front movie scale screen
this works on the free version...
Thanks for those details. Paying for version 3, version 4, version 5, version 6, and version 7 totals $150 over 7 or 8 years. So think of it as renting QuickTime Pro for about $15/year after the initial $30 purchase.iMeowbot said:
mpw said:
The difference is probably that (I guess that) Adobe has to pay Apple for shipping Acrobat reader with every Mac... I didn't by an Adobe Laptop. As I said, I don't complain that I didn't get Quicktime Pro with my Powerbook. I'm just annoyed by the fact that every now and then Quicktime asks me if I want to update to the Pro version, that the pulldown menus contain menu points like "Buy Quicktime Pro", and that 70% of the menu points are greyed out (with a "Pro" icon to their left). Can you imagine how everybody would complain about Microsoft if they'd start advertising their products via Mediaplayer? The Mac crowd would be first to request that Bill is sued...
QuickTime Pro - shameful extraction
I don't want to start flame wars (this topic has been discussed number of times), but my biggest disappointment with Apple was this QT Pro business.
C'mon, having to pay for a full screen playback . On top of that MPEG2 is additional component and more money.
Worse of all, I purchased Pro for 6.5 only to find out that I have to shell another 50 CAD for for same thing in 7. And if you upgrade iTunes it upgrades QT and you can not run 2 versions at the same time.
I would understand if Apple made Save, Edit and MPEG2 as Pro features and charge 50 CAD for all of them, one time only with free (or symbolic) upgrade.
Personally, I have no plans to pay Apple another 50 CAD for QT7 Pro.
I don't want to start flame wars (this topic has been discussed number of times), but my biggest disappointment with Apple was this QT Pro business.
C'mon, having to pay for a full screen playback
. On top of that MPEG2 is additional component and more money. Worse of all, I purchased Pro for 6.5 only to find out that I have to shell another 50 CAD for for same thing in 7. And if you upgrade iTunes it upgrades QT and you can not run 2 versions at the same time.
I would understand if Apple made Save, Edit and MPEG2 as Pro features and charge 50 CAD for all of them, one time only with free (or symbolic) upgrade.
Personally, I have no plans to pay Apple another 50 CAD for QT7 Pro.
Eraserhead said:You can also do it with a one line applescript
tell application "QuickTime Player" to present front movie scale screen
this works on the free version...
Wow. Thanks to that tip, I think I might not buy it! Although saving Apple videos would be nice.
You have any more AppleScripts like that?
I took a different approach when that happened to me. I phoned Apple and they gave me a free upgrade.
What's annoying is that it's hard to avoid updating the free part of QuickTime to the latest version, because other software includes it or expects it, and that wipes out the extended features you paid for.
I'm trying to remember if QuickTime is the only software you are offered in Software Update that removes features you've previously had. The only other case I can think of is the iTunes updates that changed the rules for sharing music across a network, and that was an attempt to lessen music piracy.
That's why I don't mind paying for Mac OS X upgrades every year or two (new features), or paying for iLife upgrades every year (new features), but I resent paying for QuickTime Pro (to keep the same features I'm used to).
What's annoying is that it's hard to avoid updating the free part of QuickTime to the latest version, because other software includes it or expects it, and that wipes out the extended features you paid for.
I'm trying to remember if QuickTime is the only software you are offered in Software Update that removes features you've previously had. The only other case I can think of is the iTunes updates that changed the rules for sharing music across a network, and that was an attempt to lessen music piracy.
That's why I don't mind paying for Mac OS X upgrades every year or two (new features), or paying for iLife upgrades every year (new features), but I resent paying for QuickTime Pro (to keep the same features I'm used to).
Nermal said:
I hope I am wrong on this. I seems to me that every time there was a QuickTime update in Software Update, a warning would appear saying that if you had QuickTime Pro, you would have to purchase a new license after upgrading. Maybe I'm confused. If Nermal and mad jew think I'm mistaken, I probably am. Sorry Steve!
Yeah don't worry GMac you're wrong. I owned 6 from 6.5 on and definitely didn't have to pay for 6.5.1 or 6.6 (if there was one, my Quicktime memory's a little foggy). I bought 7 with Tiger, have installed all the point upgrades since and haven't had to pay again. It would be a little crazy if you did.
I highly reccommend Quicktime Pro - I originally bought 6 just for full screen (a waste, I know) but I was amazed at, considering I use FCE, how much video editing I actually ended up doing in QT. It's terrific for cutting out small chunks, and the conversion to different format stuff rocks. Saving videos on the internet, really easy video recording - just check the QT page. If the features appeal for you go for it - it's a really nice, lightweight app. Fullscreen should be free, yeah definitely, but that doesn't mean there aren't other benefits to the pro one.
I highly reccommend Quicktime Pro - I originally bought 6 just for full screen (a waste, I know) but I was amazed at, considering I use FCE, how much video editing I actually ended up doing in QT. It's terrific for cutting out small chunks, and the conversion to different format stuff rocks. Saving videos on the internet, really easy video recording - just check the QT page. If the features appeal for you go for it - it's a really nice, lightweight app. Fullscreen should be free, yeah definitely, but that doesn't mean there aren't other benefits to the pro one.
You are correct about the warning. Although some people don't notice warnings no matter how obvious they are, many of us saw and understood the warning, but didn't like having to make that choice: whether to get some features in exchange for losing other features.gMac said:
I felt the same way with having to shell out another $30 to keep QTPro from 6. It's sort of the same principle with Keynote users, who bought the original, then had to pay additionally for the bundled version with iWork and, give or take a year later, are required to shell out more for iWork '06. Regarding QTPro, I still think it's worth it.Doctor Q said:
Worth Every Penny!
I personally think that QTPro is worth every penny.
I am a Mac user with 4 Macs and one Windows machine and I have bought 2 QTPro licenses (one Mac, one Windows) for each upgrade since version 4 or 5.
Never a regret.
I personally think that QTPro is worth every penny.
I am a Mac user with 4 Macs and one Windows machine and I have bought 2 QTPro licenses (one Mac, one Windows) for each upgrade since version 4 or 5.
Never a regret.
You were right
You assummed correctly. The "point" upgrades do NOT required you to re-buy a new key for Pro. But yes going to 8 will require a new key..
Is it worth it? I'd say only if you intend to use the features. Check out "mplayer" too. It will do some of the transcoding that "pro" cam do and som ethat it can't and mplayer does full screen too.
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html
EricNau said:
You assummed correctly. The "point" upgrades do NOT required you to re-buy a new key for Pro. But yes going to 8 will require a new key..
Is it worth it? I'd say only if you intend to use the features. Check out "mplayer" too. It will do some of the transcoding that "pro" cam do and som ethat it can't and mplayer does full screen too.
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html
Can you tell me what the features of QT pro are? I have iMovie, so is QT pro used with iMovie, or instead of iMove?ChrisA said:
I really have no idea what it's all about. Mainly I just wanted it for the save and fullscreen features, but I'm not sure those are worth $30.
Rather than repeat the details, permit me to point you at Apple's page about it.EricNau said:
You can also launch QuickTime Player and look for the dimmed menu choices that QT Pro enables, as a way to see what it provides.
You don't need it to use iMovie.
There are other ways to download and to play fullscreen, although QT Pro provides those abilities the most conveniently.
Thanks.Doctor Q said:
I know there are other way to display fullscreen, and I know for most videos they are possible to download (like going into the source code of a website, finding the movie and copying its url into the download manager), but is there any way to download videos that open in QT (for example, HD movie trailers)?
EricNau said:
Apparantly, yes you can. But you can't save a real "stream", which shows buffering progress and a bar of blue dots.
it's worth it!
I hesitated on upgrading to QuickTime Pro as well, but did so in the fall of 2004 (QT Pro 6 for $30). Soon I purchased the MPEG2 playback component ($20) and I definitely consider both to be essential tools that I use on a regular basis and now find it difficult to contemplate doing without. I upgraded to 10.4 Tiger right away (April 2005) and even though I was on a very limited budget for computer/tech purchases I didn't think twice about paying to upgrade to QT Pro 7 for another $30 even just 6 months after paying for QT Pro 6.
[I'm not a video pro by any means; I pick up some freelance graphic design/photography jobs outside of my 'day' job and do general computer/tech consulting/training as well... I've used QT Pro on some revenue generating projects (nothing huge) and also just for hobby/personal use]
Just look a the sheer number of audio/video/image formats that QT Pro can not only open but convert/transcode... it's also pretty darn functional as a basic video editor (not in the iMovie "I'm making a home video of my vacation" way but very handy for allowing you to quickly edit/modify video when all you need to do is to join together a few clips, cut out bits here and there, adjust audio, intersperse some image stills, etc.). I tend to think of it as a swiss army knife sort of tool and it can do even more in conjuction with other freeware/shareware tools, too - QT Pro + MPEG2 + MPEG Streamclip = easy editing of EyeTV recordings and many DVD+/-R(W) discs recorded on a set-top DVD Recorders... or add MacTheRipper and you can have fun with the video from your DVDs (within fair use only!) etc.
I find it annoying that Apple doesn't just put menu access to Full Screen mode in the free QuickTime because I'm tired of hearing people complain about Apple ripping people off by charging for that feature in QT Pro - get Real! When you purchase QT Pro, you're paying for the licensing fees for all of the various codecs included therein, and you're getting an awfully good deal at that! (go ahead and check out what the DivX folks are charging just for theirs... or how much Flip4Mac charges for the varying levels of their software "Studio" for exporting/editing WMV files!).
Yeah, I had to purchase a new license for Pro when QT7 came out with 10.4 - and this was maybe 6 months after I had purchased a Pro license for QT6 - and of course I'd rather it had been free, but you have to realize that Apple is charged for the usage of the codecs in Pro, and while I have no idea what their licensing arrangements are with the various companies that own those codecs, I would imagine that those contracts spell out in some way the cost for Apple to include their codec in QT Pro for #ofQTPro users for a certain duration of time (years, sw versions, etc) either as a flat fee or as a calculation. If QT 6 Pro had been out for 3-4 years, then Apple had probably reached the end of those agreements and the new X.0 release was a clean and obvious break. Even though I didn't get a ton of use from my Pro 6 purchase, I figured I would certainly get the full value out of my QT Pro 7 purchase and figure that that license will probably be good for at least another 2 years.
If you do anything at all with video/audio (and images too) or have an interested in such, you'll probably figure out all sorts of things that you can do with QT Pro and it will likely be a catalyst for even more video learning/experimenting/experience and you'll get a lot out of it. If you don't do that sort of thing and/or aren't interested in learning about it then it's probably not a good value (just use VLC for fullscreen, etc.).
I hesitated on upgrading to QuickTime Pro as well, but did so in the fall of 2004 (QT Pro 6 for $30). Soon I purchased the MPEG2 playback component ($20) and I definitely consider both to be essential tools that I use on a regular basis and now find it difficult to contemplate doing without. I upgraded to 10.4 Tiger right away (April 2005) and even though I was on a very limited budget for computer/tech purchases I didn't think twice about paying to upgrade to QT Pro 7 for another $30 even just 6 months after paying for QT Pro 6.
[I'm not a video pro by any means; I pick up some freelance graphic design/photography jobs outside of my 'day' job and do general computer/tech consulting/training as well... I've used QT Pro on some revenue generating projects (nothing huge) and also just for hobby/personal use]
Just look a the sheer number of audio/video/image formats that QT Pro can not only open but convert/transcode... it's also pretty darn functional as a basic video editor (not in the iMovie "I'm making a home video of my vacation" way but very handy for allowing you to quickly edit/modify video when all you need to do is to join together a few clips, cut out bits here and there, adjust audio, intersperse some image stills, etc.). I tend to think of it as a swiss army knife sort of tool and it can do even more in conjuction with other freeware/shareware tools, too - QT Pro + MPEG2 + MPEG Streamclip = easy editing of EyeTV recordings and many DVD+/-R(W) discs recorded on a set-top DVD Recorders... or add MacTheRipper and you can have fun with the video from your DVDs (within fair use only!) etc.
I find it annoying that Apple doesn't just put menu access to Full Screen mode in the free QuickTime because I'm tired of hearing people complain about Apple ripping people off by charging for that feature in QT Pro - get Real! When you purchase QT Pro, you're paying for the licensing fees for all of the various codecs included therein, and you're getting an awfully good deal at that! (go ahead and check out what the DivX folks are charging just for theirs... or how much Flip4Mac charges for the varying levels of their software "Studio" for exporting/editing WMV files!).
Yeah, I had to purchase a new license for Pro when QT7 came out with 10.4 - and this was maybe 6 months after I had purchased a Pro license for QT6 - and of course I'd rather it had been free, but you have to realize that Apple is charged for the usage of the codecs in Pro, and while I have no idea what their licensing arrangements are with the various companies that own those codecs, I would imagine that those contracts spell out in some way the cost for Apple to include their codec in QT Pro for #ofQTPro users for a certain duration of time (years, sw versions, etc) either as a flat fee or as a calculation. If QT 6 Pro had been out for 3-4 years, then Apple had probably reached the end of those agreements and the new X.0 release was a clean and obvious break. Even though I didn't get a ton of use from my Pro 6 purchase, I figured I would certainly get the full value out of my QT Pro 7 purchase and figure that that license will probably be good for at least another 2 years.
If you do anything at all with video/audio (and images too) or have an interested in such, you'll probably figure out all sorts of things that you can do with QT Pro and it will likely be a catalyst for even more video learning/experimenting/experience and you'll get a lot out of it. If you don't do that sort of thing and/or aren't interested in learning about it then it's probably not a good value (just use VLC for fullscreen, etc.).
Regarding 'stream capturing' - Little-known tip!
I noticed there was also a question on how to capture a video 'stream'. Quicktime Broadcaster (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/) is FREE, and encodes video from a 'stream' (any firewire video source such as camera or Analog-to-DV converter) in real time. A little-known feature, however, is the option to save this stream to disk while broadcasting. So you can actually set this up to 'stream' to the 'bit bucket' if you will (showing my age here) at whatever your desired resolution is (320 x 180 for iPod video), and have Quicktime Broadcaster save this to a .MOV file automatically. You have a lot of choices for encoder codec's and quality settings which will affect your quality / size ratio.
Cheers!
PowerMac: Dual 1ghz G4, Superdrive, 1.5 GB Ram
I noticed there was also a question on how to capture a video 'stream'. Quicktime Broadcaster (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/) is FREE, and encodes video from a 'stream' (any firewire video source such as camera or Analog-to-DV converter) in real time. A little-known feature, however, is the option to save this stream to disk while broadcasting. So you can actually set this up to 'stream' to the 'bit bucket' if you will (showing my age here) at whatever your desired resolution is (320 x 180 for iPod video), and have Quicktime Broadcaster save this to a .MOV file automatically. You have a lot of choices for encoder codec's and quality settings which will affect your quality / size ratio.
Cheers!
PowerMac: Dual 1ghz G4, Superdrive, 1.5 GB Ram
Doctor Q said:
I agree, save your money. It's pretty ridiculous if you have paid for QT Pro, and upgrade your OS, your version of QT is effectively downgraded (as far as I'm aware).
The fullscreen feature can be enabled with a simple Applescript. The save feature is useful, but it depends on the stream itself - most I've tried with QT Pro still only saves the reference movie and not the movie content itself; and most of the editing features you probably already have in iMovie.
