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Quicktime Update Pending... iTunes? iPods?

proprietary or not..

QT is out of the dock here because it can't support DivX among others, mPlayer is the player of choice now. Formats is supports: MPEG 1-4, DivX, AVI, ASF, Ogg Vorbis, RealMedia, QuickTime Movie, MPEG layer 1-3, AC3, WindowsMediaAudio.

I like this player better than VideoLan. VLC gimps out my audio but it still useful for some files.

to see what a real media player can do, download mPlayer:
http://versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=16623&db=mac
 
realone supports mp4 and divx5. quicktime is just like wmp and real. it has it's own format that's like 15 years old and is renovated every once in a while. the difference is quicktime is better. mac os x makes use of it's engine constantly and it is an integral part of the a/v system. this is both a good and bad thing. good, everything is centralised and compatible. bad, quicktime is not exactly optismised code in my opinion. although, the recent update was a good improvement to video. while audio and still images performace lags.

plugins will always be available. use them. i really don't see apple taking on divx5.
 
Originally posted by squatch
True, but DivX is a compression standard that can work well across the Windows/Mac boundary. I don't know that WMP supports MPEG4 currently, nor if Real does either. Someone help me with that. 😕
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Don't know about WiMP, but Real supports MPEG4. The RealServer will even stream it!
 
i agree boobers (what's with that name?)

mplayer rocks my world i just wish it would play the playlist through. (maybe i am missing something)
 
boobers - Quicktime does support divx. Just download the plugin and drop it in the quicktime folder.

interesting note about MS and mpeg4 here
MPEG-4 for movie playback will be the centerpiece of a new phone that BenQ plans to release in the second half of 2003. BenQ is working with Microsoft on its unreleased Media-to-Go OS, which will run on the phone.
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ambitiouslemon> boobers is right about divx. the codec is there, but quicktime doesn't work well with it. the fourcc codes need to be set differently and often needs new headers as div3 to play properly. this is not quicktimes fault.
 
bleh

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
boobers - Quicktime does support divx. Just download the plugin and drop it in the quicktime folder.
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Not without pi$$ing around with divxdoctor..i got no time for that.
Don't get me wrong. I don't blame Apple, but there are better players out there that can deal with divx and ogg formats better than QT6.
 
Originally posted by melchior
ambitiouslemon> boobers is right about divx. the codec is there, but quicktime doesn't work well with it.
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Unfortunately it can only be called a DEC since it doesn't enCOde. That really burns my ass.
 
Re: bleh

Originally posted by boobers
Not without pi$$ing around with divxdoctor..i got no time for that.
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actually you dont need divxdoctor.

not saying QT is the best or anything, but it can play divx. divx files dont need to be converted to 3vix. and those are the facts.
 
Re: Re: bleh

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon

not saying QT is the best or anything, but it can play divx. divx files dont need to be converted to 3vix. and those are the facts.
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Well i have divx,3ivx plugins installed and it won't play any of the divX files i have..so tell me what i am doing wrong? QT either crashes or the audio is gimped..as usual.
I believe its the mp3 audio it has problems with, AC3 too..whatever..QT can't play these lemon.

To boot, there are free mpeg2 encoders and decoders out there, also free fullscreen players(mplayer,VLC) Why would you want to use QT6 when there are free options?
 
Re: Re: Re: bleh

Originally posted by boobers
To boot, there are free mpeg2 encoders and decoders out there, also free fullscreen players(mplayer,VLC) Why would you want to use QT6 when there are free options?
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like i said before im not saying it is the best but dont bad mouth it by making stuff up. qt does play divx. 3vix isnt needed. its that simple.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: bleh

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
like i said before im not saying it is the best but dont bad mouth it by making stuff up. qt does play divx. 3vix isnt needed. its that simple.
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Sure it will play it, but not with audio! Quicktime really is useless for DivX. I just tried it on 5 divX movies and not a single bit of audio on any of them and one crashed QT6. So there ya have it folks, real world facts...cold hard facts about Quicktime 6.
No divx playback
Pay for Fullscreen? (what planet are you on Steve?)
Pay for Mpeg2
Until Apple fixes these things i can do with out QT in the dock.
If you can tell me otherwise Lemon i'll just assume your not in the know.
 
Re: ok please do tell..

Originally posted by boobers
How do you play your Divx movies in Quicktime?
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usually i double click, though sometimes qt is already open and i just open from the file menu.

but really lets get back on topic here people.

remember quicktime update is coming? thats why we all first posted here. if you are still interested in hwo to get your divx files to play do a search, there are tons of threadds on te subject.

if apple really does release updates to quicktime and their iapps that incorporate DMR technology it really would be quite a change of direction from them. i really dont think apple would abandone this stance as it has been (and perhaps will become moreso) one of the reasons there have been so many people fleeing MS windows.
 
al> just in case it is the outstanding difference. which codec's (plugins) do you have installed to use with qt?

i'm just curious to compare
 
Re: Re: ok please do tell..

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
usually i double click, though sometimes qt is already open and i just open from the file menu.
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I think you forgot about the divX validator that DivX.com bundles with their plugin. Remember that conversion step? Its the same thing divX doctor does. I don't understand why anyone would put themself through this hassle just to use Quicktime when there are more compatible players out there.
If you have a movie with a WMA or AC3 audio then divx doctor or validator won't fix this problem.
I'm not an idiot Lemon, i know how to open a file, it is you who is being rude.
 
Re: Re: ok please do tell..

Originally posted by AmbitiousLemon
if you are still interested in hwo to get your divx files to play do a search, there are tons of threadds on te subject.
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I use mPlayer, as i stated before. its really no problem, i just think Quicktime is lacking it.From what i read its a bug in Quicktime.
 
Re: proprietary or not..

Originally posted by boobers
QT is out of the dock here because it can't support DivX among others
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How can you put Quicktime out of your dock??? 😕 QT is a one of the key technologies of the mac... one of the "engine" if you prefere... you can't either put in or out the dock... Quicktime is everywhere in your Mac... 🙄

You may refere to the non-well-named "Quicktime Player"... If you prefere another QT player, just d/l it 🙂 And btw, the "QT Player" in pro version can do much more thing like simple editing (use it instead of iMovie or FCP for fast and dirty etiding) or export (instead of Cleaner for example...). QT Player is not just a player...

MPlayer is a wonderfull player (especially in it's CLI version) for anything except QT movies 😉
and i have both QT Player and MPlayer in my dock

my 2 cts

Edit: Fullscreen player is free for quicktime... just d/l (check versiontracker.com) and use another player that give you fullscreen playback for free... You don't have to use "QT Player" for everything 😉
 
Re: Re: proprietary or not..

Originally posted by SunRiser
How can you put Quicktime out of your dock??? 😕 QT is a one of the key technologies of the mac... one of the "engine" if you prefere... you can't either put in or out the dock... Quicktime is everywhere in your Mac... 🙄

You may refere to the non-well-named "Quicktime Player"... If you prefere another QT player, just d/l it 🙂 And btw, the "QT Player" in pro version can do much more thing like simple editing (use it instead of iMovie or FCP for fast and dirty etiding) or export (instead of Cleaner for example...). QT Player is not just a player...

MPlayer is a wonderfull player (especially in it's CLI version) for anything except QT movies ;-)
and i have both QT Player and MPlayer in my dock

my 2 cts
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True it is integral..but any mpeg,mov or AVI has the QT icon so it opens default with QT anyways. 🙄
so i just open the file from there instead of dragging to the dock. I like a trim dock with big icons(i also don't have the sysprefs in the dock)..QT seems like dock clutter when i don't use it much for playing, but yes its a great little quick & dirty editor , no doubt about it.
 
DivX5 is good, yes, but does it support streaming? Watching Steve's Keynotes through mpeg4 broadcast works just fine and the picture quality is pretty good..

Anyway if Apple sets up the music service, I really hope it's AAC and not Mp3 or anything else — just as rumored.
 
...and to add my 2c to the player topic:

MPlayer is very good with divx, but QT gives you better picture quality (at least with the 3ivx 4.x plugin). You just need to rip the mp3 stream off the divx with Divx Tool and then add it to the movie in quicktime.

I know it's such a hassle especially if you're gonna watch the movie only once, but the picture is better. I don't know how they've used QT in the quality comparison on MPlayer's web site where they have those pics of QT, MPlayer and VLC.. :Q
 
mplayer rocks

I must say, that I agree with everyone who thinks mplayer rocks. I tried watching several divx movies lately...and they all seem to use the DVD standard audio format of AC3...I tried for days to download different plug-ins into QT to play them....even tried to convert the AC3 sound file to something like mp3 format using mac3dec just to get QT to play it....I found something called ffmpegx and tried to use it (to no avail) and it was complicated to figure out....

Then I discovered mplayer for OS X and it plays just about everything I throw at it fine. Sure the controls could work a little better, but I'm sure it will be fixed in a later update. 🙂

Sorry to get off topic....
 
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