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Quit whining about it

dumastudetto said:
Do you really think your solution solves everything people are whining about?
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There are a lot of solutions besides an external GPU, but I think the "quit your whining" part really resonates with me.

Other common complaints I see are:

Removal of MagSafe. Solution: don't be so careless. I've used a laptop without MagSafe for eight years, and never tripped on the cord.
High price of new MBPs. Solution: buy the old MacBook Pros. They are still available for sale.
Touch Bar is a gimmick. Solution: buy any pre-2016 MacBook, or the 2016 MacBook Pro non-Touch Bar.
Et cetera.

I think the problem isn't that the new machines aren't great, but that the whiners have been waiting so long for a new computer, they want it to be the perfect computer for them. Unfortunately, you can't do what when your lineup basically consists of four computers. You have to make a perfect computer for everybody.
 
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myscrnnm said:
Removal of MagSafe. Solution: don't be so careless. I've used a laptop without MagSafe for eight years, and never tripped on the cord.
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Just because it hasn't been an issue for you doesn't mean it isn't an issue for many many other users. You can't base others decisions on your own experience. I'm not usually clumsy and I've tripped over my cord many times, luckily my laptop didn't go flying thanks to the magsafe.
 
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ag29 said:
Just because it hasn't been an issue for you doesn't mean it isn't an issue for many many other users. You can't base others decisions on your own experience. I'm not usually clumsy and I've tripped over my cord many times, luckily my laptop didn't go flying thanks to the magsafe.
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Still don't know why it's a deal breaker for so many people. Most laptops do not feature magnetically-attached power cords, but that doesn't cripple them. MagSafe came out at a time when laptops had to be charged constantly, and people would be stretching out their power cables for long distances to try to charge their computers wherever they could. Now, all-day battery life is pretty much a given when it comes to anything short of a gaming laptop. Most of the time, people are going to have their computer plugged in when it's at home, where the cord is safely tucked behind a desk or something.

Yes, you're right that just because it's not an issue for me doesn't mean it's not an issue for others, but it's still not a big enough of an issue to warrant the kind of response its gotten on this forum today. I think MagSafe was an awesome feature when it came out, and it's nice to have, but the versatility of USB-C outweighs the gains of MagSafe in today's computing world.
 
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ag29 said:
Just because it hasn't been an issue for you doesn't mean it isn't an issue for many many other users. You can't base others decisions on your own experience. I'm not usually clumsy and I've tripped over my cord many times, luckily my laptop didn't go flying thanks to the magsafe.
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Word!

Also, I have a very energetic puppy. He doesn't understand that he can't run between my laptop on the dining room table and the lead that trails to the power socket on the wall.
 
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myscrnnm said:
Still don't know why it's a deal breaker for so many people. Most laptops do not feature magnetically-attached power cords, but that doesn't cripple them. MagSafe came out at a time when laptops had to be charged constantly, and people would be stretching out their power cables for long distances to try to charge their computers wherever they could. Now, all-day battery life is pretty much a given when it comes to anything short of a gaming laptop. Most of the time, people are going to have their computer plugged in when it's at home, where the cord is safely tucked behind a desk or something.

Yes, you're right that just because it's not an issue for me doesn't mean it's not an issue for others, but it's still not a big enough of an issue to warrant the kind of response its gotten on this forum today. I think MagSafe was an awesome feature when it came out, and it's nice to have, but the versatility of USB-C outweighs the gains of MagSafe in today's computing world.
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I'd say the problem is that Apple is forcing change on people. A lot of people just don't want USB-C at all, they just want magsafe and all the common ports back. If people had a choice whether they could get a new mac with the USB-c ports or a new mac with the old ports, then that would be completely fair game and both sides would be happy.
 
Wow, what sort of complete average consumer farts in a PRO thread with a "adapt to Apple's wishes or begone" comment. It's enough to abandon this fanboy-infested board just as most of real PRO users are set to go to where what they need is, which is not Apple whatsoever at this point. (I can't believe I'm somewhat echoing those Microsoft computer ads, but boy, they were prepared to welcome the refugees and Apple just arrogantly walked into the trap.)

"It's a laptop with basically four full PCI slots for crying out loud." Yes, and including those with a couple token slots like SD, HDMI and USB 3.1 would have fanboys such as yourself AND all the current pro users lining up and moving forward. But no, the vast majority who are too damn busy to preach to all their clients and partners about how they should buy adapters and enclosures overnight are just going to go to the competitors -- if you haven't noticed, every other company's top line today has those ports, and not for no reason. Idiot.
 
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darkgoob said:
Use the Thunderbolt 3 ports to hook up NVIDIA Titan in eGPU enclosure and QUIT YOUR WHINING.

It's a laptop with basically four full PCI slots for crying out loud.

You fools are so dumb, I swear.
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Quit whining about everyone whining

I swear
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mashmosher said:
Wow, what sort of complete average consumer farts in a PRO thread with a "adapt to Apple's wishes or begone" comment. It's enough to abandon this fanboy-infested board just as most of real PRO users are set to go to where what they need is, which is not Apple whatsoever at this point. (I can't believe I'm somewhat echoing those Microsoft computer ads, but boy, they were prepared to welcome the refugees and Apple just arrogantly walked into the trap.)

"It's a laptop with basically four full PCI slots for crying out loud." Yes, and including those with a couple token slots like SD, HDMI and USB 3.1 would have fanboys such as yourself AND all the current pro users lining up and moving forward. But no, the vast majority who are too damn busy to preach to all their clients and partners about how they should buy adapters and enclosures overnight are just going to go to the competitors -- if you haven't noticed, every other company's top line today has those ports, and not for no reason. Idiot.
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Don't worry, at the rate Apple is going most consumers will join in. Apple has generally been overpriced, but price has to have value, and Apple has done nothing but take it away. At some point people will feel ripped off and I think we've got to that point with the average consumer.
 
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I think it's more: I'm very disappointed with what Apple has become.

They use to be the company you can count on if you do any sort of creative work. I switched from Cubase and Windows for audio recording and started using Logic, years and years ago.

But it seems the focus has switched to fashion and making everything smaller - at the expense of what they were once known for.

The touch bar kind of cemented that their focus is elsewhere, and after years and years with Apple, it's hard not to be somewhat disappointed.

Add to that with seeing the "old stale and stagnant" Microsoft as being the company that is innovating now, and it's - WTF Apple?
 
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Can't afford the ridiculous new prices? Solution: quit your whining and be rich!
 
Zellio said:
Quit whining about everyone whining

I swear
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Don't worry, at the rate Apple is going most consumers will join in. Apple has generally been overpriced, but price has to have value, and Apple has done nothing but take it away. At some point people will feel ripped off and I think we've got to that point with the average consumer.
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Except the average consumer's needs are met by consumer-level Macs like the Retina MacBook, so I don't think they'll be rebelling against the "overpriced" MacBook Pros.
 
darkgoob said:
Use the Thunderbolt 3 ports to hook up NVIDIA Titan in eGPU enclosure and QUIT YOUR WHINING.

It's a laptop with basically four full PCI slots for crying out loud.

You fools are so dumb, I swear.
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Paris Hilton, is that you?
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No need to tell us what to do, and secondly, no need to judge us (or call us names) for having constructive feedback, criticism, or open discussions in a place that is a public forum exactly for everything Apple.

If you don't like the forums, ..
 
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