Radeon 9600 greatness?

Discussion in 'Macintosh Computers' started by gekko513, Jun 4, 2005.

  1. gekko513 macrumors 603


    Oct 16, 2003
    I just got a new iMac G5 2.0GHz with the Radeon 9600 that everyone has been screaming for because it is approximately 5-10% faster than the Geforce 5200 Ultra.

    I just figured out why it is faster. I was just doing some OpenGL programming and I wasn't able to draw antialiased polygons in the program, so I went through all kinds of bug hunting to find out why. Eventually I found this:
    Maybe I'm silly but I do prefer a 5-10% slower card that actually does what it's told and doesn't cheat by drawing aliased graphics when the program wants to draw antialiased.
  2. dubbz macrumors 68020


    Sep 3, 2003
    Alta, Norway
    Heh. ATI have sucky OGL support regardless of OS :p
  3. Rod Rod macrumors 68020

    Rod Rod

    Sep 21, 2003
    Las Vegas, NV
    I noticed a huge difference when I upgraded the FX 5200 in my DP Power Mac G5 to a 9600XT. Motion (the app) runs much better compared to before.

    Do you know whether the x800 draws AA graphics?
  4. gekko513 thread starter macrumors 603


    Oct 16, 2003
    I'm not sure. The post I quoted from iDevGames forum mentions only the 9000-series, so maybe the X800 doesn't suffer from this crippling of features, but it's hard to tell for sure just based on this.
  5. Etrain macrumors 6502


    Feb 26, 2005
    Land of Cleve
    I can't compare the 9600 with the 5200 but compared to my old GeForceMX 400, the 9600 rocks! I'm very pleased with the graphics capabilities. I don't play many games however, but the ones I have played where very nice.
  6. Hoef macrumors 6502a


    Jul 11, 2004
    Houston, TX..... (keep walking)
    Hey Gekko513,
    Can you explain to the graphics challenged, such as myself, what we are missing: why is drawing aliased graphics when the program wants to draw antialiased bad? Tx!
  7. homerjward macrumors 68030


    May 11, 2004
    fig tree
    yeah, and would this affect its ability to run a 3d modeling program like lightwave? i was under the impression that the 9 series were really good gpu's especially the 9600 9700 and 9800 :confused:
  8. gekko513 thread starter macrumors 603


    Oct 16, 2003
    This is bad because for many existing and upcoming applications that use OpenGL, the quality of the graphics will be worse if you have a Radeon 9x00.

    Basically, in some apps, like mine, edges will look like jagged as shown to the left with a Radeon card, and smoother as shown to the right with other graphics cards.

    For games it usually doesn't matter because most don't use antialiasing unless it's full scene antialiasing. The Radeon cards do support full scene antialiasing, but it's not practical to use in all situations because it uses alot of GPU power and VRAM.

    I don't know how much it will effect 3d modelling apps like Lightwave. It depends on whether Lightwave uses polygon antialising for anything.

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