RAID 0 Suggestions: LaCie 2Big vs OWC Elite Pro Duel

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  1. FullerNikonMan macrumors newbie

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    Hello,
    I am looking for some advice on external RAID arrays for my photo library. I have a late 2012 iMac with an internal 1TB 2.5” 5400 RPM drive. I use LR5 and PS CC mainly. I plan to use this array for my working files so speed is important. I plan to set up in RAID 0 with a local HD and CrashPlan backups. I believe I have my selection down to 2:
    1. LaCie 2Big 6TB Thunderbolt backed up locally to LaCie d2 Quadra USB 3.0
    2. OWC Mercury Elite Pro Dual Multi-Interface Performance RAID Enclosure. B&H recommends these drives for it: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1042713-REG/wd_wd1003fbyz_1tb_enterprise_3_5_internal.html I will back this up locally with OWC Mercury Elite Pro External Hard Drive USB 3.
    I have used LaCie in the past and like them. I have no experience with OWC.

    Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Joseph
     
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    thedeske macrumors 6502a

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    Setting up the exact same thing for a client. Currently uses 4TB USB drives, so we'll use those for
    backup. We targeted the Caldigit T3 - 6TB version uses Toshiba DT01ACA200 drives.
    Since the TB2 version was released, the original is going for a lot less. The newer version is not
    that much faster in 50% full use.

    Amazon is a dealer
     
  3. MCAsan macrumors 601

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    I use my LaCie 2Big 6TB in RAID 0 mode and my TM backup does to a LaCie 6TB d2 that is chained behind the 2Big. I keep all my libraries (photos, music, videos, documents...etc) on the external drive. Lightroom on my rMBP's internal SSD does catalog backup to the 2Big.

    In the field I import my raw photos to the SSD, cull, and maybe do initial edits in Lightroom. When I get home I complete the process and move the images to the Photos folder on 2Big. That frees up SSD space for the next field trip.
     
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    100Teraflops macrumors 6502a

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    My setup is very similar. I have two Lacie thunderbolt drives daisy chained, one has raid 0 and the other as my backup in raid 1. I do not use my internal drive in my laptop. I like space available in my laptop drive.


    OP,
    I have two years plus from Lacie raids and I am very pleased thus far. I have a 2big and a little two big. I know my 2big has seagate drives and I think my little two big has western digital drives.

    I have OWC ram, but would not hesitate to buy a raid system from them. Hope this helps.
     
  5. Apple fanboy macrumors Core

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    We put a lot of back up solutions into different graphic designers etc at work and our technical team always choose LaCie.
     
  6. FullerNikonMan thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks all for the great help and guidance! Still thinking about this one. Speed is the main reason I am looking into RAID 0. My 2012 iMac seems to be slow but maybe I should look at SSD or more RAM.
    Thanks,
    Joseph
     
  7. MCAsan macrumors 601

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    If you have the need for speed...get a new Retina 5K iMac with 4k quad core i7 CPU, top GPU, 16 or 32GB of memory and a 512 SSD for plenty of room for OS, apps, and cache. Then put the data on LaCie 5Big Thunderbolt 2 running RAID 5. Don't forget drives for TM or CCC.
     
  8. Ray2 macrumors 6502a

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    Agree with the above. Put an ssd in the Mac. Keep your cache files on it. You'll see far better performance from that than fast external storage.
     
  9. ChrisA macrumors G4

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    You should know that RAID-0 is only half as reliable as a single disk. You should expect to periodically need to restore from a backup. The way RAID 0 works is that if either drive fails you loose the data on both drives

    So you should seriously consider a local Time Machine backup of your RAID 0 system. Cloud backups like CrashPlan or BackBlaze are for "last resort" backups after your primary backup fails

    You cause a slower and less expensive storage system for Time Machine

    Have you actually used CrashPlan? I found the upload was intolerably slow. So slow it could not be used like you want because new data might remain not backed up for DAYS or longer. I have a fiber optic internet connection that runs at 10 megabits in both directions and still CrashPlan is throttling the connection. So when I would copy a 32GB SD card to my hard drive it would take days to get backed up. and worse CrashPlan is a Java app that sucks up LOTS of resources in my iMac and it has to run 24x7 Ok it works but not as a first level of backup.

    You need a local Time Machine storage device.
     
  10. rock.star macrumors newbie

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    I would also suggest the T3 from CalDigit which is in the same market section with the two disk Raids like G-Tech Studio... just with one drive more.

    Stay away from Lacie! Bad news! :eek:
     
  11. FullerNikonMan thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Hello All,
    Thanks for the great feedback and guidance!

    MCAsan and Ray2,
    I will eventually invest in a new iMac with SSD, better processor and more RAM. But for now funds do not permit it. And since I need additional storage now that is why I am looking into external RAID.

    ChrisA,
    Yes, the RAID 0 does worry me with twice the risk of failure. Sorry I was not clear, I plan on using BOTH local back up and CrashPlan. I use Time Machine for my internal drive now and it works great. I am planning on backing up the external RAID to a OWC USB 3.0 drive with the included OWC back up software. Funny you should ask about CrashPlan... I just downloaded it Monday and started using it... I thought something was incorrect with my set up since the uploads are unbelievable slow. I plan to call CrashPlan and discuss this... if this is best case it will not work for me. I agree this is only for last resort back up and I plan to use a local HD to back up the RAID.... either with TM or OWC software.

    rock.star,
    I spent quite a bit of time reviewing the CalDigit enclosures and I really like them. Great price too for a 3 bay unit but a little above my price point. Thanks for the note on LaCie... I have heard mixed reviews on LaCie. Some love them and some hate them.

    Thanks again all for the help here! I have been enjoying this education in the world of storage.

    Regards,
    Joseph
     

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