I have seen many many .Mac websites on personal domains (www.example.com). And all but 2 have been using frames to silently direct the user to their dot mac homepage. GRRRR! I'm not sure if it is just .Mac makes it easier to make websites for people who, unlike me, don't read A List Apart reguraly, or that it doesn't provide A-Records/NS Records for people but... seeing so many nice websites (with valid XHTML Transitional 1.0 code too) masked in frames just kills me. DON'T USE FRAMES! THEY ARE EEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLL!