Raw png pictures...those with 7/7+ please read

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  1. KOTULCN macrumors 6502

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    I'm curious if you can select raw format in settings, also has anyone taken any pictures in raw format? I'm curious how big each picture typically is.
     
  2. Floris macrumors 68020

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    The Apple Camera app shoots in JPEG, (I don't have i7 btw) but Apple has opened up RAW to third parties. So third party apps have to utilize this feature. They will probably be up to 16mbyte/file. Compared to just about up to 5 megs in compressed jpeg.
     
  3. KOTULCN thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I was under the impression from keynote that camera.app natively had this feature.
     
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    Developers will be able to add RAW functionality in jpeg+DNG simultaneous captures.
    (RAW photos will use the DNG format)

    Raw via rear camera (on iPhone 6s, 6s Plus, SE, and 9.7” iPad)

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    Yeah, developers can use the AVCapturePhotoOutput class for live photos and raw image capture.

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    actually interesting article i just run into
    http://www.imore.com/how-raw-changes-iphone-photography-better
    has raw pictures with more details
     
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    .....And iPhone 7
     
  6. KOTULCN thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Ok so this means you will have to take all of your pictures you want in raw format with a third party app? It seems to me like camera.app should natively be able to do this so you can use all of iPhone 7 plus new camera features.
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    It will be a damn shame to have to use another app to take pictures.
     
  7. Floris macrumors 68020

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    Who knows what the bookeh update in october will include. I find it equally odd. Just as odd as not letting us switch between 4k and other stuff on the fly, but we have to go to settings. time-wasters.
     
  8. KOTULCN thread starter macrumors 6502

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    My 7 plus 256gb will be here Tuesday and I'm trying to see if I really need that much storage or if I could get away with 128gb.
     
  9. Floris macrumors 68020

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    Think about a workflow before it gets there :) Do you stop it online somewhere, export to dropbox or your computer etc?
    I am considering in the future with the 7s+ when I upgrade from my 6s+ if I can use a card reader dongle to import and export the raw stuff. Hopefully by then the native camera has another setting like 'save original picture for hdr shot', like .. 'save raw'. Getting an important photo in both, raw, live, jpeg, and hdr .. every time you take a picture, would help me so much with the projects I do. And with a dongle with card reader to export it on .. even 32gb is enough to be honest. I process my data rather quickly as I work with it.
     
  10. AaronChicago macrumors member

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    If you download Adobe Lightroom for iOS you can shoot in Raw DNG. I've tried it and it's great. Really good option if you're wanting to take an important photo that needs to be edited.
     
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    Unless this recently changed, isn't lightroom free, but to use raw it's in-app purchase?
     
  12. kat.hayes macrumors 6502a

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    Just tried taking a .dng with LR, though it does not show up in the main photos app? It seems you can only access the photo in LR. Is there some setting for this>
     
  13. AaronChicago macrumors member

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    Its possible. I have an Adobe Creative Cloud subscription so it was free for me.
     
  14. KOTULCN thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I have an iCloud storage subscription, 50gb, but I also use Photos.app on my computers to keep pictures.



    How big are the pictures in size typically? Again I know this varies on what is in photograph but I'm looking for typical size.
     
  15. AaronChicago macrumors member

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    Did you click save to camera roll after editing?
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    4-5 MB
     
  16. Floris macrumors 68020

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    I do not use iCloud for my pictures. But.. is it true if you delete a picture from iCloud it also deletes it from the phone?
    Or from the phone, it gets removed from iCloud too?
     
  17. Loadsled macrumors newbie

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    You have to save it to camera roll when you're done editing.
     
  18. Floris macrumors 68020

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    Thanks, that's good to know. I didn't even think of looking into that.
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    From what I read online and API stuff, etc. No, there's no setting for it (and I just checked if I could find any too)
     
  19. kat.hayes macrumors 6502a

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    Done editing the photo in LR? Do you mean you need to export as .jpg to the camera roll?
     
  20. KOTULCN thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Yes. For pictures I 100% need to know I have a backup copy of I move them to a separate directory.
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    That doesn't seem like it is correct for a raw picture.
     
  21. Floris macrumors 68020

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    Thank you for clarifying! With the 2TB option in iCloud, it might be something for the 2017 projects to consider.
     
  22. KOTULCN thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I know that the typical picture taken in raw format with my Cannon 40d (10MP) the images are about 10MB in size. I can only assume with a larger MP count the 7+ pictures should be larger.
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    So just doing some quick modest calculations with raw pictures at 15MB each, you could get around 733 pictures per 10GB. I have 80Gb worth of music in iTunes and currently 187 apps on my iPhone. I think 128gb could realistically be fine but I haven't figured in any video taken at 4k or 1080p. Maybe 256gb is the safe bet.
     
  23. ohmyggg macrumors member

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    Yeah, the DNGs are only accessible through the Lightroom Mobile app. It seems the only way to obtain access is via a JPEG export.
     
  24. AaronChicago macrumors member

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    Maybe it's 12 bit vs 16 bit Raw?
     
  25. kat.hayes macrumors 6502a

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    How do you get the RAW files from LR mobile to a computer? I tried the option to just save the image and it turns it to a .jpg and I tried uploading to Dropbox and it converted to a .jpg. I have a .edu version of Adobe CC and it does not allow me to synch LR mobile with the CC cloud and desktop LR....
     

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