I actually have the same concern but in the opposite direction: When my Android device is involved in a group chat with iPhone users (all of whom use iMessage because Apple refuses to allow anything else), every once in a while the group text gets wonky and I end up missing messages or their delivery is delayed. Maybe this is just a weakness in the SMS/MMS protocol (which Apple insists on continuing to use, despite how clear it is that SMS and MMS have long outlived their usefulness), or maybe it's an issue just with how iMessage is encoding its messages. But my worry is that that Apple will do something else to make the RCS experience as bad as it is now with SMS/MMS. I suppose only time will tell -- for both of our concerns.
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I am unsure what your point is. Are you saying that the iMessage interface is confusing?
My point was that in the current state of affairs, SMS is the only real cross platform protocol that works between various apps. Others, such as What’s App, require an account to be used; even if the protocol is based on an opens source one, so sending messages cross app is still not possible. At least with iMessage it’s baked into every iPhone; even if it is not a superior app. Ubiquitousness is a superiority al of its own, to paraphrase an old statement.
Okay, I understand your point now. And yes, if anyone wants to replace the current SMS/MMS technology, it's important to have an app on the phone that doesn't require creating another account. But, here once again, it's Apple who is preventing that from happening by refusing to allow any such apps (because they would compete with iMessage) to be available to users in the App Store. If Apple made Google's messaging app available on the Apple Store, or if they made their own iMessage available in Google's Play Store, then people would have the choice. But Apple famously doesn't want to do either of those things.
The only way for truly universal messaging standard that replaces SMS/MMS is both platform’s default messaging app need to support same standard.
Currently, Google is mandating all Android phone support RCS as standard messaging protocol. The only logic way now is Apple to adopt RCS on its messaging app.
To be honest, I don’t believe allowing Google Message app on iOS would change anything. Most iOS user would use default messaging app, aka Messages on iOS.
I'm not going to rehash and summarize the conversation that you jumped into.
Read the past responses and you'll literally find the answer to your question.
Okay, so you can't articulate your point. Got it. Thanks for at least admitting it.
I already did actually.
You: " Are you saying that the iMessage interface is confusing?"
Me earlier in the thread: "blue vs green bubbles is already confusing for many." https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-communication-services.2411654/post-32744605
You just admitted that you failed to read. That's great so I'm moving on.
See? Now, was that so hard after all? You could have provided that link earlier, and it wouldn't have necessitated you copping an attitude with me.
Now, if you spent half as much time in critical thought and reason as you do spewing bad attitude, this could have been resolved much earlier.
Or you can continue being confrontational with no reason. Your choice.
It will send it through your phone like it does with SMS I believe
See, that would mean that Google couldn’t use encryption on their “flavor” of RCS either. Most likely RCS encryption would just be disabled by the carriers in those countries, this way Apple and Google can continue providing encryption to every other country.
That’s exactly what they’re doing, which is a lot better then how Google does it with their weird check mark indicator mess.
In my country it's covered under the Telecommunications Interception Capability and Security Act, which only applies to telecommunication companies. As Google is considered a software company it doesn't apply to Google's own-brand RCS, but it does apply to the 3GPP-standardised one.
Surely it doesn't have to connect via a phone if it is a cellular iPad?
(And a non-cellular iPad can use WiFi, can't it?)
It would be madness if they don't. At the same time, it is always possible it could be a deferred feature coming in an update after initial releases.
As long as only Apple users get the blue bubbles…
I don't care about the color of bubbles. But I do like the better texting experience with android people.
I can't believe people care about the color of bubbles.
The iPads have cellular data, phone calls/SMS require different networking chips. It might actually be built into the iPad but to enable it requires paying the licensing fees. In that case it would effectively be an iPhone and I’m sure there are reasons Apple doesn’t want that.
The way android and google was making this a big deal, I have 2 Android friends who have this. I thought it would be used a lot more.
