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Read this if you're from NZ
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Its in the latest Consumer mag guys.Swain was all for unbundling,then Telecom paid him a visit and he quickly changed his mind.I do believe though that Telecom uses what could be called veiled threats to drag their heels in other areas if unbundling goes ahead.
The upshot is now they{Telecom} have gotten just to powerful to screw with easily without consequences in other areas.
The upshot is now they{Telecom} have gotten just to powerful to screw with easily without consequences in other areas.
Apparently the Commerce Commission have recommended that we don't unbundle. However, I have my suspicions that Telecom has told the CC to recommend staying bundled.
And now the Americans are complaining that their broadband is slow... 
Article:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_09/b3872049.htm
Discussion:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61776
Article:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_09/b3872049.htm
Discussion:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61776
Maybe you guys could train a flock of kea to fly to the telecom offices and make such a cheeky raucous unholy racket that they would have to change their internet policies. Seriously though, that sucks for you guys down there. But look on the bright side, just about everthing else about New Zealand is so much better than anything anywhere else! (I have a not so secret desire to immigrate)
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There was an ad on a while ago where a family drive to what looks like a walking track in the middle of nowhere. They get out of the car, lock it, and head on up the track.
A flock come along and fly down to the car, and proceed to pull the rubber out of the window frames. The family returns, they get in the car, and all the windows fall out
Advertising insurance if you didn't already figure it out
A flock come along and fly down to the car, and proceed to pull the rubber out of the window frames. The family returns, they get in the car, and all the windows fall out
Advertising insurance if you didn't already figure it out
YES! I wish I could have seen that ad! The Kea is my all time favorite creature. I love how cheeky they are. I lived in NZ for a couple of months and while I was on a hike to the Fox Glacier they came and ripped my windscreen wipers and door rubber off. I came back from the hike and found them on my car and just before I could get my zoom lens focused somebody meaning well shooed them away. They were quite surprised by the yank that emitted a yelp of dismay!
I was in the South Island 20 odd years back sitting out a marginal Skiing day reading in the sunshine. Over the course of the day Kea's just destroyed the Vinyl roof on a Cortina about 100 meters away.
In comparison for priceing Telstra in Sydney give me a 1Gig plan for $65 AU on Cable. It maxes out about 700/128 but I plan to upgrade to their new "unlimited" (10gig) plan at $69.95 soon , certainly before WOW comes out
Oh and 3800bps modem is fast compared to a 220 bps modem, from memory it brought down text about typing speed and you attached it to your phone.
In comparison for priceing Telstra in Sydney give me a 1Gig plan for $65 AU on Cable. It maxes out about 700/128 but I plan to upgrade to their new "unlimited" (10gig) plan at $69.95 soon , certainly before WOW comes out
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Well Telstra just dropped it too $60 for 10gig and since that is cheaper than my 1 gig plan I swapped real quick
Telecommunications Minister Paul Swain announced his decision today - not to implement unbundling
I don't like to call people names, but, for the world to see:
PAUL SWAIN IS AN IDIOT!
Read and weep.
I don't like to call people names, but, for the world to see:
PAUL SWAIN IS AN IDIOT!
Read and weep.
Wake up, sleepy thread, wake up...
Today Telecom announced that they're discontinuing their flat-rate DSL service (which runs at 128 kb/s) at the end of the year. Fortunately, they're going to offer "wholesale DSL" to ISPs, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Today Telecom announced that they're discontinuing their flat-rate DSL service (which runs at 128 kb/s) at the end of the year. Fortunately, they're going to offer "wholesale DSL" to ISPs, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Warning: Thread revival!
Telecom today announced 2 Mb/s DSL with no excess data charges, for $59.95/month (plus ISP). It's about time!
Telecom today announced 2 Mb/s DSL with no excess data charges, for $59.95/month (plus ISP). It's about time!
Telecom? i dont' know if this is the same company we're talking about... but over here they changed their name to Telstra years ago.
but that is a good price. i don't even know if there's anything like that in Australia yet?
but that is a good price. i don't even know if there's anything like that in Australia yet?
Telecom is the local monopoly. Telstra operates over here too, usually with better service and cheaper prices (although Telecom's monopoly limits what they can do).
Edit: I just remembered that Telecom operates in Australia too, but under than name APPT or something. Some of their pricing looks better over there, but some of it seems worse too (they seem to charge for local phone calls! )
Edit: I just remembered that Telecom operates in Australia too, but under than name APPT or something. Some of their pricing looks better over there, but some of it seems worse too (they seem to charge for local phone calls!
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ah, okay then. yep i know AAPT. aren't they based in Indonesia now?
i think that slowly we are getting better prices for broadband, or even broadband for that matter. i used to check out whirlpool.net.au for all the ISP news, i remember they had a thing about the definition of 'broadband' about a couple of years ago. and by definition, Australia didn't even have 'real' broadband. and i think we're only just starting to get there now.
but my bro was just talking about a 1.5Mbit with a limit of 36GB a month, with a $3 per GB fee over that limit, but free, uncapped between certain hours of night. that was around $86 i think.
right now i'm paying about AU$90 a month for 512k ADSL, but it's uncapped, which is good. hopefully some better deals will come out and i can step up to real broadband.
i think that slowly we are getting better prices for broadband, or even broadband for that matter. i used to check out whirlpool.net.au for all the ISP news, i remember they had a thing about the definition of 'broadband' about a couple of years ago. and by definition, Australia didn't even have 'real' broadband. and i think we're only just starting to get there now.
but my bro was just talking about a 1.5Mbit with a limit of 36GB a month, with a $3 per GB fee over that limit, but free, uncapped between certain hours of night. that was around $86 i think.
right now i'm paying about AU$90 a month for 512k ADSL, but it's uncapped, which is good.
hopefully some better deals will come out and i can step up to real broadband.
It's only in the last few months that Telecom's realised that people don't want to pay for excess traffic. When they first started offering DSL back in 1998 (at up to 8 Mb/s), you could choose between a 600 or 1200 MB cap (although higher caps up to 10 GB were available for businesses). In 2001 (I think) they introduced a slower service (128) with no data cap. By the end of the year, many ISPs were losing a lot of money so they started putting caps on, most chose 10 GB.
Telecom have 'discovered' speed limiting now, rather than making you pay for excess. I've heard that they do this in Australia too - slow down your connection once you hit a certain limit.
By the way, they don't seem to be based in Indonesia.
Telecom have 'discovered' speed limiting now, rather than making you pay for excess. I've heard that they do this in Australia too - slow down your connection once you hit a certain limit.
By the way, they don't seem to be based in Indonesia.
Fast-forward by 7 months and we get some more good news (not that there's anything wrong with my $45 (US$33) 2 Mb/s connection)
(not that there's anything wrong with my $45 (US$33) 2 Mb/s connection)
Nermal said:
Yeah, quite a few ISPs do that. They mainly throttle it back to 64kbps or something.
Nermal said:Fast-forward by 7 months and we get some more good news
I read that in the newspaper a couple of days ago. Hopefully it will mean higher caps, currently I'm supposed to use under 500 MB a month because the connection is shared amongst a family full of internet users.
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