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[virus1]

don't get me started about kids like that.. i would write a novel about it, but am too lazy... the point is i could.

it is almost the exact opposite for me, however. At church, i have a very tight knit group of friends, and we do everything together. while at school, however i don't have as many, and they are not very close at all.

 

[muffinman]

it is almost the exact opposite for me, however. At church, i have a very tight knit group of friends, and we do everything together. while at school, however i don't have as many, and they are not very close at all.

That's the way it should be... because you have probably know your church members for years and years.

 

[prostuff1]

Onizuka we think alike sometimes.....don't think thats a good thing 2 crazies at macrumors

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You are not the only two that think that way.

I have a low tolerence for people like this. As i do with stupid people and aholes that just make life harder for the rest of us. Fortunantly i dont really have to deal with a lot of this stuff.

I did once in HS but thankfully i did not get in trouble for that (self denfence). The story: This kid was a big pain in the arse and he would always make fun of me (i think mostly cause i was the smart one). I was not the "popular kid" in HS but i got along just fine with almost everyone. Well, he had a problem with me and one day he was coming done the hall and just flat out shoved me. Well i decided to ignore that and keep walking. He ended up catching up with me and shoving me in the back and knocking my books around. I picked them up and turnd to hiim and said, "if your not going to make a contribution to society, crawl in a corner and die." Obviously he did not like that very much and took a swing at me (missed by a mile) and i clocked him one upside the jaw. By then one of the teachers had reached us and basically pulled him back as i was basically just standing there. we both got sent to the office and they pulled up the video tapes of the incedent (great things video tapes) and that pretty much proved what had happend. He got suspended for 2 weeks all together (one out of school and one in school). My mom and dad were not happy but my dad was kinda proud (wether that is good or not...).

I guess the moral of the story is dont go starting the fight but if he comes at you kick is a$$. Violence does not solve probelms but it sure does stop moronic people from being morons.

 

[floriflee]

...I also doubt that the people in church will ever accept me.

Why are we having this conversation if you don't think that there is any way to fix this problem by making your church life better? A change in attitude and perception is the key to making any progress in this matter. We can give advice all day long, but if you don't think there is anything that can work then this whole thing is pointless. You have to change first if any part of this is going to be changed for the better. Those are the hard facts, but it's true.

If you change you for the better, even if those around you don't really change, it will seem like they have.

 

[XNine]

You are not the only two that think that way.

I have a low tolerence for people like this. As i do with stupid people and aholes that just make life harder for the rest of us. Fortunantly i dont really have to deal with a lot of this stuff.

I did once in HS but thankfully i did not get in trouble for that (self denfence). The story: This kid was a big pain in the arse and he would always make fun of me (i think mostly cause i was the smart one). I was not the "popular kid" in HS but i got along just fine with almost everyone. Well, he had a problem with me and one day he was coming done the hall and just flat out shoved me. Well i decided to ignore that and keep walking. He ended up catching up with me and shoving me in the back and knocking my books around. I picked them up and turnd to hiim and said, "if your not going to make a contribution to society, crawl in a corner and die." Obviously he did not like that very much and took a swing at me (missed by a mile) and i clocked him one upside the jaw. By then one of the teachers had reached us and basically pulled him back as i was basically just standing there. we both got sent to the office and they pulled up the video tapes of the incedent (great things video tapes) and that pretty much proved what had happend. He got suspended for 2 weeks all together (one out of school and one in school). My mom and dad were not happy but my dad was kinda proud (wether that is good or not...).

I guess the moral of the story is dont go starting the fight but if he comes at you kick is a$$. Violence does not solve probelms but it sure does stop moronic people from being morons.

Oh, I agree with you. He shouldn't start the fight. You should never start the fight, you should always END it. Every fight I've been in, in my life, except fro one, I didn't start. The one I started I swung first, but that was one of those situations wherre the guy was twice my size, and a good solid punch on his temple dropped him.

Anyway, I disagree with ChrisBrightwell. 2 years is 2 years. In the grand scheme of things, living in fear of this jerkoff for those two years takes away from precious time that you could be LIVING. Standing down tt this thug will get you nowhere, and it will show everyone you are weak. Stand up to him. Tell him, "if you've got soemthing to say, say it to ME, and stop being a little giggling bitch." If he swings, kick him in the nuts, or punch him in the throat.

I'd suggest stomping on his knee when he's down, but I realize this is in a church setting...

 

[ChrisBrightwell]

Anyway, I disagree with ChrisBrightwell. 2 years is 2 years. In the grand scheme of things, living in fear of this jerkoff for those two years takes away from precious time that you could be LIVING.

I'm not saying that he should live in fear, but rather he should just remove this problem from his life. If talking to the guy (or his parents, or his pastor) fails to solve the problem, just get up and walk away. Kicking his ass isn't going to solve anything.

And, in the grand scheme of things, two years is nothing. For some people, it takes longer to get approved for a home loan.

Standing down tt this thug will get you nowhere, and it will show everyone you are weak.

One thing my dad taught me, when I was very young, was that it takes a strong man to fight. In the very next breath, he taught me that it takes a stronger man to stand up and walk away.

I don't think I've ever learned a more valuable lesson.

Stand up to him. Tell him, "if you've got soemthing to say, say it to ME, and stop being a little giggling bitch." If he swings, kick him in the nuts, or punch him in the throat.

Violence is not the answer. Cheap shots and sucker punches are even worse.

Stand up to him? Sure. Confront him? Why not?

But punching him in the throat? That's begging for an assault charge, at best, a lawsuit, at worst. The last thing you want to do is collapse the guy's trachea and be stuck with piles of medical bills.

To the OP, I reiterate ... Just walk away from this. It's not worth the fight.

 

[XNine]

I'm not saying that he should live in fear, but rather he should just remove this problem from his life. If talking to the guy (or his parents, or his pastor) fails to solve the problem, just get up and walk away. Kicking his ass isn't going to solve anything.

And, in the grand scheme of things, two years is nothing. For some people, it takes longer to get approved for a home loan.

One thing my dad taught me, when I was very young, was that it takes a strong man to fight. In the very next breath, he taught me that it takes a stronger man to stand up and walk away.

I don't think I've ever learned a more valuable lesson.

Violence is not the answer. Cheap shots and sucker punches are even worse.

Stand up to him? Sure. Confront him? Why not?

But punching him in the throat? That's begging for an assault charge, at best, a lawsuit, at worst. The last thing you want to do is collapse the guy's trachea and be stuck with piles of medical bills.

To the OP, I reiterate ... Just walk away from this. It's not worth the fight.

Not if it's in self-defense. If the other guy swings first, then the OP has every right to take the guy down however he can, especially if he's bigger.

I'm not sure how old you are, but "walking away" doesn't work as often anymore. Kids these days are relentless. Defensive Violence is a powerful end to Attacking Violence.

You are of course entitled to your opinion, but securing a home loan over two years, and living your life happily without some bully making it miserable are two different things. Two years is two years. I'm in my mid 20's, and as I look back I see how much time I wasted when I was much younger because I worried about what would happen in school every day.

Kids these days often commit suicide or random acts of violence because of bullying. They go to extreme measures when all it takes is a swift kick in the nuts to end it. I'd rather this kid fight than be tormented, and I'd rather this bully get his ass kicked and the OP to live in hapiness then worry about going to church.

I'm not a religious man, but come on. Church is the one place where the OP should be able to go without this nonsense.

 

[ChrisBrightwell]

Not if it's in self-defense. If the other guy swings first, then the OP has every right to take the guy down however he can, especially if he's bigger.

You can always claim self-defense, but that doesn't preclude him from bringing litigation to your door, in the event of medical bills or something else.

I'm not sure how old you are, but "walking away" doesn't work as often anymore. Kids these days are relentless. Defensive Violence is a powerful end to Attacking Violence.

I'm 23, so I'm not that far from the current crop of high school kids. That said, in my experience, violence rarely ends violence. If anything, answer violence with violence only perpetuates the problem.

I'm in my mid 20's, and as I look back I see how much time I wasted when I was much younger because I worried about what would happen in school every day.

See, I never worried about what was going to happen at school. I was clearly an "outcast" in my high school (of 2200 students), but I never let other people get under my skin. If you didn't like me, or if you had a problem with me, that's fine. It wasn't my problem.

I had a very, "F**k you," attitude in high school toward people who were anti-Chris. I wasn't there to make friends, nor was I there to convince anyone that I was worth their time. There were a few people who saw me as worthwhile and those are the people I focued my energies on.

I had plenty of opportunities to issue a beat-down, even if it required a cheap shot or two, but I rarely did. I took a few minutes and figured out how to outsmart my problems rather than overpower them.

Kids these days often commit suicide or random acts of violence because of bullying. They go to extreme measures when all it takes is a swift kick in the nuts to end it.

You really think a single act of retaliation will solve anything? I've always seen it amplify the situation rather than disolve it.

I'd rather this kid fight than be tormented, and I'd rather this bully get his ass kicked and the OP to live in hapiness then worry about going to church.

I agree, but I still disagree with the notion that violence is the OP's only alternative at this point.

I'm not a religious man, but come on. Church is the one place where the OP should be able to go without this nonsense.

I absolutely agree.

 

[XNine]

You can always claim self-defense, but that doesn't preclude him from bringing litigation to your door, in the event of medical bills or something else.

I'm 23, so I'm not that far from the current crop of high school kids. That said, in my experience, violence rarely ends violence. If anything, answer violence with violence only perpetuates the problem.

See, I never worried about what was going to happen at school. I was clearly an "outcast" in my high school (of 2200 students), but I never let other people get under my skin. If you didn't like me, or if you had a problem with me, that's fine. It wasn't my problem.

I had a very, "F**k you," attitude in high school toward people who were anti-Chris. I wasn't there to make friends, nor was I there to convince anyone that I was worth their time. There were a few people who saw me as worthwhile and those are the people I focued my energies on.

I had plenty of opportunities to issue a beat-down, even if it required a cheap shot or two, but I rarely did. I took a few minutes and figured out how to outsmart my problems rather than overpower them.

You really think a single act of retaliation will solve anything? I've always seen it amplify the situation rather than disolve it.

I agree, but I still disagree with the notion that violence is the OP's only alternative at this point.

I absolutely agree.

I see your points. I don't intend on turning this into a debate. You have some very valid points, and we're obviously both from the same generation with two similar but different views.

I think with our posts alone the OP has enough advice to base his future decision on this matter, not to mention all of the other posts.

edit: It is rare, but yes, I do believe, in this particular situation the OP could fight and not perpetuate it.

 

[calculus]

Shocked

I have to say that I am shocked by all the people in this thread who are calling for violence. Is this not incitement to commit a crime?

 

[2nyRiggz]

I don't like violence but i will take it if it comes my way.....and if this dude bothers you..or starts something all of us do not want...it must stop

If it was me....i woulda dropped him(i don't play them stupid things) I am not the one to stand around and watch someone clown me. I would talk to the pastor and ask him to resolve the matter.....cuz knowing me i would wait for him outside and resolve it myself.

Try to resolve it in a peaceful way....Ask the almighty for help


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