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kjotwani

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just curious what folks think what’s the use of Smart Invert colors?
 

canesalato

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To give developers an API to support dark mode, which is not ready yet, so that when it debuts, a year, or a few months from now, there will be a large support from third party apps from day 1
 

onepoint

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Have been keeping an eye on this with each passing iOS 11.x version/beta, and there has been minimal improvement since introduction.

I think there is real opportunity, particularly in moving to OLED displays. Apple updated a couple of their own apps (e.g., News which implements Smart Invert pretty well) but until it recognizes their own emojis I'll consider them not taking it seriously o_O
 

Feenician

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just curious what folks think what’s the use of Smart Invert colors?

The clue is in the fact it’s in Accessibilty settings. It’s for... wait for it... accessibility for people with vision disorders.

To give developers an API to support dark mode, which is not ready yet, so that when it debuts, a year, or a few months from now, there will be a large support from third party apps from day 1

Having developers selectively not invert resources in an accessibility mode is, in no way, a preparation for the kind of “dark mode” people here keep talking about. It’d do the exact opposite.

I don’t know how many times I’ve said this but “Dark Mode” has never been teased, previewed or promised by Apple in way, shape or form in iOS. It’s an internet fantasy.
 
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Chazzle

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The clue is in the fact it’s in Accessibilty settings. It’s for... wait for it... accessibility for people with vision disorders.
You must be joking if you believe for a second that the Accessibilty section only includes options for people with disorders.

Just a few things within Accessibility:
-Auto-Brightness
-Home Button Settings (some)
-Siri Settings (some)
-3D Touch Settings (some)
-Vibration
-Call audio routing
-Phone noise cancellation
 

Feenician

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You must be joking if you believe for a second that the Accessibilty section only includes options for people with disorders.

Just a few things within Accessibility:
-Auto-Brightness
-Home Button Settings (some)
-Siri Settings (some)
-3D Touch Settings (some)
-Vibration
-Call audio routing
-Phone noise cancellation

All of which Apple set sensible defaults for and don't think you need to change them unless you have accessibility challenges.
 

Chazzle

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All of which Apple set sensible defaults for and don't think you need to change them unless you have accessibility challenges.
Same arguement could be made for pretty much ANY setting beyond the initial setup screens then. You were snarky and belittling in your reply to the OP’s question and I am simply pointing out that it’s not as clear and straight forward as you were trying to make it seem to the OP.
 

C DM

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All of which Apple set sensible defaults for and don't think you need to change them unless you have accessibility challenges.
Well, to be fair, a number of those things can also just be personal preferences not related to any challenges or anything like that. For example someone that doesn't like or care for vibration for whatever reason. Or wants their home button to have lighter feedback (or harder feedback). Or doesn't want the shake to undo functionality. Or wants 3D Touch to require less (or more) pressure to activate, or perhaps have it off completely. Or have keyboard display lowercase letters. Or control Siri voice feedback so that it doesn't always come on but only does when the phone is not on silent. Or have reachability enabled (or not). Etc.
 

Chazzle

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Well, to be fair, a number of those things can also just be personal preferences not related to any challenges or anything like that. For example someone that doesn't like or care for vibration for whatever reason. Or wants their home button to have lighter feedback (or harder feedback). Or doesn't want the shake to undo functionality. Or wants 3D Touch to require less (or more) pressure to activate, or perhaps have it off completely. Or have keyboard display lowercase letters. Or control Siri voice feedback so that it doesn't always come on but only does when the phone is not on silent. Or have reachability enabled (or not). Etc.
I will say that I don’t think Accessibilty is the right place (or name) for many of these Settings.
 
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C DM

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I will say that I don’t think Accessibilty is the right place (or name) for many of these Settings.
I think a lot of them are accessibility related, and some can basically be of multi-purpose (accessibility or preference). They can probably be divided up a bit more in the sense of being more "accessibility"-specific and more sort of "advanced" settings/preferences.
 
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Chazzle

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I think a lot of them are accessibility related, and some can be of basically multi-purpose (basically accessibility or preference). They can probably be divided up a bit more in the sense of being more "accessibility"-specific and more sort of "advanced" settings/preferences.
Exactly what I’m saying. The settings that you and I referenced should be somewhere else. As for the other settings in Accessibility, they belong where they are.
 

Menel

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Its cool, but broken.
Doesnt work smartly with website images in safari.
 

SoYoung

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For the X time, I will repeat myself, smart invert colours is not intended to be a dark mode. Its for people (like me) who have visions problem and used invert colours frequently before. the "smart feature" is there to prevent users to constantly switching back and forth between invert and normal colours just to see pictures and videos correctly.
 

Feenician

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Same arguement could be made for pretty much ANY setting beyond the initial setup screens then. You were snarky and belittling in your reply to the OP’s question and I am simply pointing out that it’s not as clear and straight forward as you were trying to make it seem to the OP.

Respectfully, I disagree.
 
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lelisa13p

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Personally, I think that Accessibility is also the hiding place for settings that get relocated randomly every time there is a major iOS upgrade. Apple is keeping us on our toes by making us ferret out which setting moved and where it's been hidden this time. (kidding, but only partly...)
 
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You must be joking if you believe for a second that the Accessibilty section only includes options for people with disorders.

Just a few things within Accessibility:
-Auto-Brightness
-Home Button Settings (some)
-Siri Settings (some)
-3D Touch Settings (some)
-Vibration
-Call audio routing
-Phone noise cancellation

Really can't understand why they moved auto brightness to Accessibility.
 

C DM

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Really can't understand why they moved auto brightness to Accessibility.
Probably because they feel it should be on by default and people shouldn't need to change it unless it somehow really gets in their way and impacts their use of the device.
 

TimFL1

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Really can't understand why they moved auto brightness to Accessibility.
Maybe because of the X OLED screen. No OLED expert but I assume it‘s not healthy if people crank up the brightness and leave it there permanently. Better to tuck the setting away for the tech illiterate people that don‘t know better. That and to increase battery life.
It‘s the same reason they changed the control center wifi/bluetooth behavior. People negatively impact their phones capabilities because they don‘t know better.
 

Chazzle

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Maybe because of the X OLED screen. No OLED expert but I assume it‘s not healthy if people crank up the brightness and leave it there permanently. Better to tuck the setting away for the tech illiterate people that don‘t know better. That and to increase battery life.
It‘s the same reason they changed the control center wifi/bluetooth behavior. People negatively impact their phones capabilities because they don‘t know better.
There may be some truth to that as Apple recommends not turning up your brightness to extremes for any duration of time to prevent burn in. Still though, just makes it harder for these “tech illiterates” to turn the setting back on too.
 
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