All iPads Real world performance: Snapdragon 800 vs Apple A7

Discussion in 'iPad' started by macfacts, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. macfacts macrumors 68020

    macfacts

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2012
    Location:
    Cybertron
    #1
    Here is a video I made of web browsing in Chrome on both my Note 3 (Snapdragon 800 soc) vs my iPad mini retina (Apple A7 soc, same as iphone5s, and ipad air).

    In the benchmarks I've read, the Apple A7 is fast but in real world usage it seems slow. This is my first iOS device and have used android devices before and never experienced lag like this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POvVsElyQuQ
     
  2. Kadin macrumors 6502a

    Kadin

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2009
    #2
    Obviously that's not normal. Is it always like that? I imagine it's not like that after a fresh boot.
     
  3. Aetherhole macrumors member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2009
    Location:
    Tustin, CA
    #3
    Odd, yours seems like a pretty extreme case, all in all. I've used chrome on iOS and it was never that bad. That said, I think it partially is due to Chrome being a google application, which runs natively and smoothly on it's own operating system (at least it should). I'm not an expert, but that definitely seems strange to have SO much lag.

    I'm sure others will chime in regarding this...
     
  4. ZBoater macrumors G3

    ZBoater

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2007
    Location:
    Sunny Florida
    #4
    Wow. That lag on the Mini is awful. It almost seems like a bad digitizer. I haven't experienced that kind of lag on mine. I would know. It's very obvious.
     
  5. macfacts thread starter macrumors 68020

    macfacts

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2012
    Location:
    Cybertron
    #5
    It isn't a digitizer issue. Scrolling and touch input is responsive in simple text web pages and in the "mobile" version of that web page in Safari. I used Chrome because Safari won't give me the desktop version of the web page and cause Safari won't let me pinch to zoom or tap to zoom.

    It seems the CPU in the iOS device is just not as fast as other devices.

    Here is the link to the web page I showed in the video for you to test yourself in Chrome (with "show desktop version" setting set).

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-charged-aggravated-assault/story?id=20926767
     
  6. conorporter macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2013
    #6
    You want us to pat you on the back for finding a crummy webpage that cripples Webkit? Go to apple.com and show me that lag.
     
  7. ZBoater macrumors G3

    ZBoater

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2007
    Location:
    Sunny Florida
    #7
    I'm not sure I'd reach the same conclusion from that test. It could be a iOS 7 issue. It could be a iOS Chrome issue. I'd have to see some performance benchmarks to reach the same conclusion you did.
     
  8. macfacts thread starter macrumors 68020

    macfacts

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2012
    Location:
    Cybertron
    #8
    It didn't lag on my other device running Chrome/Webkit.
     
  9. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    #9
    Everyone knows chrome is far slower on iOS vs Safari and Chrome on Android as it is not the native browser and doesnt have access to nitro like Safari does on iOS for security reasons. Anand has performance tests.
     
  10. g35 macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2007
    #10
    The thread is for real-world performance. People visit abc.com much more than they visit apple.com. Let's be honest, Apple (and Macrumors in general) are always extolling the real-world superiority of Macs, iPads, etc, benchmarks and specs aside. I think this thread is perfectly reasonable. In fact, OP should probably be using Safari to be perfectly real-world about it as that's by far the most popular iOS browser.
     
  11. AdonisSMU macrumors 603

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    #11
    Every other browser is dead in the water on iOS because its a webview which is far and away slower than the browser engine Safari runs on. Web pages load up instantly for me in safari.
     
  12. wxman2003 Suspended

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2011
    #12
    Why would I want to use Chrome? Page loads quickly on Safari. No lag whatsoever. Why not also try it with Safari on the Note and then compare with ipad?
     
  13. mcdj macrumors G3

    mcdj

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2007
    Location:
    NYC
    #13
    Ford engines run like crap dropped into a Chevy body too.

    Chrome running slowly on an iPad sounds like an Android salesman's trick.
     
  14. macfacts thread starter macrumors 68020

    macfacts

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2012
    Location:
    Cybertron
    #14
    As I said before, Safari will only show me the "mobile" versions of webpages. So what I see is a blown up smartphone interface on the tablet, something the extreme fanboys always bring up when attacking android.

    I want to see the desktop versions of some webpages so that is why I used Chrome.
     
  15. ZBoater macrumors G3

    ZBoater

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2007
    Location:
    Sunny Florida
    #15
    I don't think Apple makes Safari for Android.
     
  16. AdonisSMU, Nov 18, 2013
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2013

    AdonisSMU macrumors 603

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    #16
    Or you can just scroll to the links at the bottom that let you choose the desktop experience. Thats what I do if I prefer it. Most sites have iPhone view and desktop view and nothing in between. With gmail I prefer the mobile experience.
     
  17. SamuraiMinis macrumors member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2013
    #17
    If I try scrolling in the middle of the page, it's like your video. But if I scroll on the very right edge of the screen/page, it scrolls very well! Something is very wrong with the site.:eek:
    imo.
     
  18. Kadin macrumors 6502a

    Kadin

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2009
    #18
    That link runs butter smooth in Safari. Chrome is not the browser of choice for iOS and hasn't been for a long time...
     
  19. sixrom macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2013
    #19
    I'd rather just enjoy what I prefer than reveal the truth.

    Lately it seems emotions run high amongst the Apple faithful causing them distress. Why compare if it's so traumatic...

    Overall my Apple products are just fine :)
     
  20. macduke Suspended

    macduke

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2007
    Location:
    Central U.S.
    #20
    If devs would build a proper responsive site we wouldn't need to switch. But anyway, Safari has access to a faster JavaScript engine—and I think it's due to security reasons because it can more directly access system memory which speeds things up. Third party apps don't have access to that, which is why I always stick with Safari. It's rather apparent during casual browsing using what is essentially UIWebView. You think that's Chrome that you're using? It's watered down Safari. Anything else is a security risk.
     
  21. KPOM macrumors G5

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    #21
    Chrome on iOS is just a fancy skin for Safari. The lag you demonstrate does not appear normal.
     
  22. Jinzen macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2012
    #22
    That's not a real world test. Chrome doesn't render that page correctly on iOS.
     
  23. zbarvian macrumors 68010

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2011
    #23
    This has NOTHING to do with the CPU. It comes down to rendering engines, web technologies used and compatibility, etc.

    And for the record, Chrome is not slower than Safari. It has a slower JavaScript engine, but that's nothing anybody would notice in day-to-day usage. I ran that desktop website on both Safari and Chrome and both were similarly unresponsive.
     
  24. ZacUSNYR macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2008
    #24
    That site crashes chrome on my iphone 5. There is something the iOS version of Chrome can't render properly on that page. Sounds like you found a bug.
     
  25. Davidkoh macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2008
    #25
    If you want to use a browser on iOS, use Safari. That would be a better comparison, stock browser vs stock browser. Also you need to include many different sites in a comparison to make sure it's just not a bad website.
     

Share This Page