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Really No Opt Drive?

blanka said:
If the update is just a bump, even a simple Ivy bump, it will stay there. If they go for a total redesign, for example a shrink-to-TBD-size, the drive will be lost. If Apple takes itself serious, they do the latter as it makes the profit even healthier.
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You sound like a business genius with some profound understanding of the "game". Is that you Michael Douglas? If Apple does not take itself seriously, I will personally remove the disc drive from your new iMac. Let's call it a thank you for sharing your thoughts on here.

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whitesand said:
No, it's not the same thing as they replaced it with better physical storage device...The difference here is many folks don't want their content storage in a virtual space especially home movies or other items in the hands of another party...I don't think folks would have as much issue with it if was replaced with better physical storage technology that they can control.

It's like suggesting that someone who prefers physical books is stuck in the stone age...It's nonsense.
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Nonsense is quite an understatement. It seems borderline insane what you read from some people when it comes to removing the drive. I don't even personally care too much for one, but the degree of arrogance and ignorance with which said people argue makes me wish Apple would put in two additional disc drives, a floppy disc drive and a Cassette player.

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Puevlo said:
The same people on this forum complained when they got rid of floppy drives. Can't keep antiquated tech around forever.
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Even all the horses in California can't keep up with your output rate. Aplauso.
 
ill trade opt for performance for no doubt. trade for something useful for 7x24 rather than a thing which will use around ten times in a year.

and i only need one single ext drive for all computers.
 
bugbear99 said:
ill trade opt for performance for no doubt. trade for something useful for 7x24 rather than a thing which will use around ten times in a year.

and i only need one single ext drive for all computers.
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You need spell check, that's what you need. I would prefer more performance as well, but don't you think Apple will just give you a slimmer form factor, instead of more performance?
 
CoreyLahey said:
You need spell check, that's what you need. I would prefer more performance as well, but don't you think Apple will just give you a slimmer form factor, instead of more performance?
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Sorry, English is not my native.

slimness is a bonus, not a main factor for desktop, even for AIO as long as it achieve the baseline.

IMO, Apple may want iMac absorb some of pro user.

The performance for iMac should be even better.

and it will be matter of GPU.

do you know is there anything preventing apple not to use SLI for their mobile GPU?
 
Sleix said:
This was the same thing that was said about floppy media back in 1998 when Apple so rightfully removed it from the machine with the iMac. Optical media has had its day, it shouldn't be necessary anymore.
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Maybe for people who don't use computers for actual work?

I like my data private, I like it secure, I like owning it 100%. Optical media is far more reliable than external hard drives or SSDs, and much more private than cloud storage. It still has TONS of advantages.
 
bugbear99 said:
Sorry, English is not my native.

slimness is a bonus, not a main factor for desktop, even for AIO as long as it achieve the baseline.

IMO, Apple may want iMac absorb some of pro user.

The performance for iMac should be even better.

and it will be matter of GPU.

do you know is there anything preventing apple not to use SLI for their mobile GPU?
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Sorry, I didn't mean to bash your English, I'm just curious why people never make use of spell check, native or non-native speakers.

Like I said, I would welcome a higher performance instead of the optical drive, but I think Apple would probably just slim down the device, if they were to remove the ODD. I don't know exactly why they don't make use of a second GPU, but I guess it's a cost issue.

Let's see what happens, the ODD doesn't really influence my buying decision.
 
CoreyLahey said:
Nonsense is quite an understatement. It seems borderline insane what you read from some people when it comes to removing the drive. I don't even personally care too much for one, but the degree of arrogance and ignorance with which said people argue makes me wish Apple would put in two additional disc drives, a floppy disc drive and a Cassette player.
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Trololol... Good one, sir! :D
 
Apple has shown their hand clearly now with portables and the Mac mini, so it should come as no surprise when they drop the optical drive from the iMac. Anyone who says they're doing it to make more money selling external optical drives doesn't understand Apple at all—sorry. The external drive is a compromise for those who still need an optical drive. Yes, they price it to maintain Apple's large margins (as they do with most products), but one day they'll drop it all together—just like they stopped selling printers, cameras, and anything else they don't consider a core focus.

Their philosophy in hardware design came from Steve Jobs who (1) hated unnecessary clutter, and (2) was never reluctant to drop what he considered to be outdated technology. Apple have long pictured a world where all software and digital media is delivered over the Internet, and that's where they're trying to take us. You either come with them, or you don't—they don't really care. Arrogant? Maybe, but that's Apple.
 
There is no real reason as far as space limitation, etc. but apple has been pushing the whole cloud/app store/ no physical media angle for a while. I can see them not including one simply because they want to further push their own agenda. Look at how they snubbed bluray. They could have offered bluray burners at any time but they saw bluray as a dead format before ever giving it a chance.

Add to that their insanely overpriced external drives which they wouldn't mind selling you. Why anyone would spend so much on an external burner these days is beyond me, but some people really do care that much about aesthetics and having their drives "match" their computer.

I'd like to have the drive, and I am ready to get a new iMac once they're released. But if it's not there its no big deal. I already own an external I can dust off and plug in.
 
What if they dropped the odd, shuffled around components a bit and got some space for dual 680ms in SLI mode?
Would that be a good tradeoff?
 
Eliminating the Optical drive would be a huge mistake for Apple. Sure we could buy an external one but then the Imac is not an 'All in One' anymore (at least for me).

Most people still have some use for their optical drives albeit less than years ago.
 
bushman4 said:
Eliminating the Optical drive would be a huge mistake for Apple. Sure we could buy an external one but then the Imac is not an 'All in One' anymore (at least for me).

Most people still have some use for their optical drives albeit less than years ago.
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but how is optical drive used these days by most people? does anyone even use it anymore?

I can see it being a problem if you want to watch DVDs on your iMac since we're not at a stage where we can download 4GB movie instantly, but most people watch movies on their HD-TV/bluray...
 
G51989 said:
You don't, but lots of people do.
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And lots of people don't just as well. I for one rarely use the optical drive. Just to install software and import a CD into iTunes. It will go away soon enough as did the floppy drive. But since they don't really need the space for a bigger battery or something, it'll likely be in the next rev of the iMac.

Things like software purchasing are all moving to the cloud now. Its cheaper for companies to do and more convient...provided you have broadband of course.

But that's me :p
 
I still use an optical drive every once in a while but I have an external Samsung BluRay and it is much much quicker than the superdrive in all aspects.
 
A Hebrew said:
Apple's goal for a desktop line shouldn't be slimming down an already small device.
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The size of the stand is the limiting factor now making the pizza box slimmer really add to the desk space.

Sleix said:
This was the same thing that was said about floppy media back in 1998 when Apple so rightfully removed it from the machine with the iMac. Optical media has had its day, it shouldn't be necessary anymore.
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Well it's important to understand the largest capacity 3.5 inch floppy was 2.8Mb you know about enough to hold a short iTune. If you worked with Graphic or CAD it was one file per disk.

Now at the end project we can fit every drawing, every email, every report can on a single DVD so quickly and cheaply to allow lots of redundancy.

It really is a chalk and cheese situation.
 
MattInOz said:
The size of the stand is the limiting factor now making the pizza box slimmer really add to the desk space.



Well it's important to understand the largest capacity 3.5 inch floppy was 2.8Mb you know about enough to hold a short iTune. If you worked with Graphic or CAD it was one file per disk.

Now at the end project we can fit every drawing, every email, every report can on a single DVD so quickly and cheaply to allow lots of redundancy.

It really is a chalk and cheese situation.
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Tossing all that on a Flashdrive is even easier.
 
GizmoDVD said:
Tossing all that on a Flashdrive is even easier.
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SD Cards maybe at least they store nicely in bulk. Sadly they are a read write tech. Oh and 10x the price, to pay for features that hinder not help.

When we get a dirt cheap (holographic maybe) write once SD card type format then maybe we can talk end o' Spinning Disk. Till then it still very much has a need.
 
If there is an optical drive I plan on immediately taking it out and putting something useful in its place....
 
The next all-new iMac enclosure will not have an optical drive. Whether that's the one presumably coming out this year, hard to say since reliable info is limited. All we know is the screens will be more anti-reflective and thinner. I kind of think that next year will be the year of the vanishing optical drive. The Air was the test case, the RMBP the preview. Next year everything goes no optical. That's my best guess.
 
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