Reapplied Thermal Paste on DC 2.3GHz G5

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  1. noodle654, Jun 10, 2013
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    noodle654 macrumors 68020

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    I have been trying to make my DC G5 run cooler, but nothing seemed to work very well. After taking apart my DP the other day, which had a bad logic board, I decided that reapplying the thermal paste to my DC might be a good idea because it is an 8 year old computer and probably could use some new paste.

    I thought I would share my results with you all here, and I have attached some photos because I know everyone loves to see some good ol' photos.

    I used arctic silver 5 for thermal paste, and I cleaned the area with 92% iso. I then let the chip dry under a warm lamp for 30 minutes. After putting everything back together I ran ASD to recalibrate the system, below are my temperature results.

    Temps before:
    120F-125F (49C - 52C) at idle
    130-135F (54C-57C) running weather software

    Temps after:
    108-112F (42C - 44C) at idle
    116-120F (46C - 49C) running weather software

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    Not much paste there!

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    Heatsink with old paste

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    Almost clean!

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    Prepped heatsink with very small amount of AC5, notice the haze color to it

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    Ready to go with AC5 on it. I used smear (using saran wrap). There was a perimeter black plastic around the die which I kept in place

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    What a heatsink

    Well, overall this was a complete success. I achieved much lower temperatures and more even temps across both cores, before I had about a 5-10F degree spread. I highly recommend it to all G5 owners if you want to cool down your summer time heater.
     
  2. Lil Chillbil macrumors 65816

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    I always told myself that someday I would start up a dual processor g5 2.0ghz with no heatsinks and fans taped stopped. and see what happens
     
  3. wobegong Guest

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    Interesting, that's quite a drop in temp - Maybe technology has moved on since the PM was built and thermal paste is a much better conductor today.
    If it wasn't such a pain to do I might have been tempted to have a go myself as a weekend project....
     
  4. skinniezinho macrumors 6502a

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    Manufacters always poor thermal paste.
    In my opinion every single computer can always benefit from good thermal paste.
     
  5. wobegong Guest

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    Which brand of paste did you use?
     
  6. skinniezinho macrumors 6502a

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    Back in the overclocking days of Athlon XP I used artic silver (conductive).
    Now since I only have laptops I use artic mx (can't remember the number) because it is supposed to last a couple years.
     
  7. noodle654 thread starter macrumors 68020

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    It is actually pretty easy. I did have to wait a week for a 7" 4mm ball hex screw driver to come in the mail, got one on eBay for $4. If you take a look at the service manual for your G5 model, you will see that it is pretty straight forward. Total time actually working on it was less than 30 minutes. If you feel comfortable enough I would highly recommend it.
     
  8. wobegong Guest

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    Ok thanks, might give it a go.
     
  9. noodle654 thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Just want to point out that the DC/Quad require a 7" long (or larger) 4mm ball hex screw driver, which isn't available anywhere really, to take apart the heatsink. Only place to get one reasonably cheap is eBay.

    However, if you have an earlier G5, you should be able to take apart the processor/heatsink with basic tools (hex drivers, philips head).
     
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    Much obliged :)
     
  11. MisterKeeks macrumors 68000

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    I should do this. I have a dual 2.7, and the temps can be in excess of 190 Degrees F (87/88 C) when doing very computationally intensive stuff (Macports, GCC). Not sure whether the paste or LCS is at fault. I suppose that I would find out.
     
  12. skinniezinho macrumors 6502a

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    first try the thermal paste...cheaper =)
    I had an HP DV9575ep that from new was hot like hell, as soon as I changed thermal paste: Bang a totally cool computer.
     
  13. noodle654 thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Wow 190F? That is really high. I got mine to top out around 170F, but the fans kick on and it cools down fairly quickly. It was pretty easy to notice that mine needed new thermal paste because of the large difference in temperatures between the two cores. My spread before was up to 10F, after reapplying the spread is less then 2 degrees.

    I would say to totally do it, from the looks of mine there was nowhere near enough thermal paste on the die, and I took the heatsink off while it was still warm.

    If you do reapply the paste, show your work/results in the thread...it would be interesting to see some comparisons.
     
  14. MisterKeeks macrumors 68000

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    Usually after it peaks at 195/196 fans kick it back to 170/180. Can you link to where you got the screwdriver?

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    Why on earth would you do that? Nothing noticeable would happen, and you would ruin a good computer.
     
  15. noodle654 thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Well I know you need one of these for the DC/Quad...not sure on the DC 2.7/2.5...check the service manual.

    Here is what I bought
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/181131117704?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
     
  16. jdryyz macrumors regular

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    Thanks for posting this! I would like to do the same for my 2.3GHz Dual Core. Are there any precautions with separating the heatsink from the CPU? It looks straightforward to me.

    Also, how critical is it to run ASD afterwards? I thought that is only necessary if adding or replacing a CPU (with new). ASD is not built-in to the PPC Macs, correct? It is a bootable disc?
     
  17. 666sheep macrumors 68040

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    It is straightforward. Few phillips screws and 4 hex ones. There'a also a plastic clip on small "helper" heatsink.

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    Not at all, especially when you have only one CPU (no possibility to accidentally swap CPUs).
     
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  19. noodle654 thread starter macrumors 68020

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    No precautions, it is pretty simple to do. I recommend getting the G5 warmed up first before you take the CPU apart, makes it a little easier.

    Not necessary, just did it to check my works. I did run the thermal recalibration though, figured it couldn't hurt after doing everything.

    Hope it goes well!
     
  20. honam1021 macrumors regular

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    Lap the heatsink base and you'll have even better temps!

    Also do the same to my 2.0 GHz DP, but I didn't run the calibration software since my air deflector hasn't arrived yet.
     
  21. Colpeas macrumors 6502

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    Curious what it could do with the Quad G5 I bought yesterday... This thing burns like hell, the 2GHz DC i also own runs much cooler.
     
  22. MysticCow macrumors 6502a

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    What if you were a clutz, like me, and break the plastic clip?

    DISCLAIMER: I have not broken the clip and no G5's were harmed in the making of this post.
     
  23. 666sheep macrumors 68040

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    Heatsink would still work as before.
     
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    Where do you live? Those are great temps, specially for a G5...
     

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