Well so I found that you can edit N45AP.plist found in /System/Library/CoreServices/SpringBoard.app now this file is in Binary so it needs to be converted http://184.108.40.206/~khchung/cgi-bin/plutil.cgi Above url is an online converter found somewhere trying to get my cal to work. Now I used the file M68AP.plist that Customize writes when you save your icon arrangements to grab the key codes for all my icons.. So I'm guessing that the Iphone pulls the icon arrangements form M68AP thats why Customizer writes there. but Ipod stores that info in the N45AP file. now don't just cut and copy everything form the Customizer file to the N45AP file. This will leave you unable to move the music Photos and videos due the the string differences between the to units.. Now if I have mixed something up pls let me know i can make the changes.. Current Ipod Touch Screen Shot As you can see I'm still having some problems moving some icons.. thats because i did a cut all and paste.. if someone could email me the unedited N45AP.plist to firstname.lastname@example.org i would be greatly appreciative.