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I wonder why Tim Cook is only fighting HIV/AIDS, of all the terrible diseases in the world?
 
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I'm so tired of the "this is only virtue signaling" comments and the like.

Apple DOESN'T, and never did, have to do this, at all.

It doesn't matter whether it's virtue signaling or not; the program helps.

Period.

I'm of the mind that I'll take ANY win, where I can get it.
I'm assuming you're referring to my post since I was the first person in this thread to use the term "virtue signaling" in a post. I'd like to clarify my position: I support the excellent work that Product Red is doing. They are helping to save lives. I am happy that Steve Jobs decided to partner with Product Red to support their charitable cause. What I don't support is Tim Cook taking away recognition and maybe money, too, from Product Red by selling the same red-colored products in mainland China without the Product Red logo.
 
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I love the cause, but these days Apple's Product RED are a bit old and tired. Being there every year, with different shades of red ending up making those red iPhones and Watches look cheap and overused. It should be more exclusive, maybe one product red every 2 or 3 years?

Also what's wrong with making RED iPhones Pros? Why reserve the red only for regular/cheaper iPhones?
 
I'm so tired of the "this is only virtue signaling" comments and the like.

Apple DOESN'T, and never did, have to do this, at all.

It doesn't matter whether it's virtue signaling or not; the program helps.

Period.

I'm of the mind that I'll take ANY win, where I can get it.
It's just PR and Marketing mate. And it's full of hypocrisy. Especially the environmental stuff, and the caring about the poor stuff. That's why we are all sick of the virtue signalling.
 
It's just PR and Marketing mate. And it's full of hypocrisy. Especially the environmental stuff, and the caring about the poor stuff.
I'm good with all that. Better that than people on their high moral horse that do nothing. Product (Red) has a verifiable positive impact, so Apple's motivations are irrelevant.

That's why we are all sick of the virtue signalling.
I will never see the sinister side of advocating for helping out your fellow man or the environment. Especially when you actually do.

The fact that Apple found a way to monetize their philanthropy, green efforts, etc. is a win/win in my book.

The only downside is that it bothers people like you. That's an easy tradeoff for me to get behind.
 
I wonder why Tim Cook is only fighting HIV/AIDS, of all the terrible diseases in the world?
I wonder if this post is a (not so) subtle dig at the fact that Tim is gay?

Especially since:

1. That whole Product(Red) "thing" was started and remains independent of Apple

2. It was Bono's (U2's lead singer) and attorney Bobby Shriver's (JFK's nephew) idea.

3. Product (Red) was created "to raise money for The Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria", not just HIV/AIDS

4. It was implemented at Apple while Steve Jobs at the helm, before the iPhone even existed.

5. It took me all of ten seconds to Google this info
 
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I'm good with all that. Better that than people on their high moral horse that do nothing. Product (Red) has a verifiable positive impact, so Apple's motivations are irrelevant.
The other annoying thing about the product red thing, is it's just more of Timmy shoving his sexuality into our face, same with all the rainbow stuff. I don't care what he does in his private life, but I don't want it shoved in my face.
I will never see the sinister side of advocating for helping out your fellow man or the environment. Especially when you actually do.

The fact that Apple found a way to monetize their philanthropy, green efforts, etc. is a win/win in my book.

The only downside is that it bothers people like you. That's an easy tradeoff for me to get behind.
It's sinister when they cr*p on about caring for the environment and the poor, but then do the exact opposite. The tiny amounts of money they wave at charities are trivial compared to the damage they do.
 
The other annoying thing about the product red thing, is it's just more of Timmy shoving his sexuality into our face, same with all the rainbow stuff. I don't care what he does in his private life, but I don't want it shoved in my face.
See my previous post. And no one is shoving anything in anyone’s face. Disease doesn’t care about anyone’s sexual preference, even if you do. You’re connecting dots no one but you ( and your “community”) are connecting.

At some point, you’re gonna have to come to peace with the fact that gay people (have a right to) exist, just like your predecessors had to come to peace with interracial relationships, schools being integrated, women wearing pants, people not believing in God (or in different ones), etc.

It's sinister when they cr*p on about caring for the environment and the poor, but then do the exact opposite. The tiny amounts of money they wave at charities are trivial compared to the damage they do.
1. Money is only trivial to those that have it.

2. What damage? Be specific and verifiable (links, data, etc.), and no conspiracy theories.
 
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