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If you haven't developed for iOS then it is best to just not talk about it.
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The paste mechanism is buggy as hell. Also, I want convenience. A good UX doesn't make the user tap multiple times for something that can be done automatically.
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Not just a possibility, for sure it will have negative consequences.


where on Reddit can you paste with one click? Why would Reddit want to see your clipboard as you type?

I will also talk about what I want. Since I have experience with Front End and Back End development, cloud services and ML I think I can talk just fine 😉

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If you had done enough development, you wouldn't be calling BS. You know as a developer that most apps and programs and websites are a cluster **** of bad code. And as the old saying goes, never assume malice when it can be easily attributed to stupidity.

We've all seen ridiculous and terrible code, and horrible hack job ways of achieving very simple things. I could easily envision a bad bot detector built this way.

Also, for VERY basic common sense, just have a think, why would they be scraping the clipboard on every keystroke? They know through the event list they aren't copying something, so the clipboard hasn't changed - especially in the case of TikTok. So what privacy invading reason is there for copying the clipboard on every key stroke?

Letter A typed: Copy clipboard. Send data away
Letter B typed: Copy clipboard. Send data away. Exactly the same.
Letter C typed: Copy clipboard. Send data away. Exactly the same.
... etc

If your plans are to invade privacy and copy clipboard data, then you only need to do it when the clipboard changes. So this would just be a way of increasing the incoming bandwidth costs, and the amount of server side crunching needing done, to achieve what you could do upon the app just opening once.

With some very basic thought processes, this looks far more like incompetent programmers trying to solve problems in creative ways, using out dated tools more than it does data privacy breaches. I'd be more concerned with the apps which scrape the clipboard on open and then never do it again - because that's the ones that look like competent programmers trying to obtain whatever is on the clipboard.

Now, as I said - this isn't a good thing. And it should be stopped. But it doesn't mean all of these apps are doing bad things.

Basic this, basic that. Not experienced enough blah blah blah.

You both defend bad code and then call me a rookie or whatever. Both say developers can make hack jobs that cause bugs and then claim sending data on each keystroke is inefficient and not likely done of malice because it’s... designed poorly?

Get off your high horse, kid.

No, you deliberately need to type or copy and paste code to read the clipboard. No you don’t really need it especially when there are better alternatives.

The simplest solution is the obvious one. Social media apps need your info to be successful. Your clipboard contains info about you. Can you reach the conclusion for me, kid?
 
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where on Reddit can you paste with one click? Why would Reddit want to see your clipboard as you type?

I will also talk about what I want. Since I have experience with Front End and Back End development, cloud services and ML I think I can talk just fine 😉

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Basic this, basic that. Not experienced enough blah blah blah.

You both defend bad code and then call me a rookie or whatever. Both say developers can make hack jobs that cause bugs and then claim sending data on each keystroke is inefficient and not likely done of malice because it’s... designed poorly?

Get off your high horse, kid.

No, you deliberately need to type or copy and paste code to read the clipboard. No you don’t really need it especially when there are better alternatives.

The simplest solution is the obvious one. Social media apps need your info to be successful. Your clipboard contains info about you. Can you reach the conclusion for me, kid?

I didn't defend bad code. If you read my posts you'll notice I said both times it's unacceptable. What I said was it's more likely to be bad code than it is malicious, especially if you think about it.

Is it acceptable? No. Should it be happening? No. Is there a security risk? Yes. If you want to jump the conclusion that every single app is doing things maliciously and there can't possibly be a badly made app, then cool - you do you, kid.
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So was this done intentionally or..

Well it's intentional. You don't do it by accident. The real question is what is the intention. It can be maliciously trying to scrape data - or it can be some badly made anti-spam/bot detection, or other. And unless a disgruntled ex-developer from these companies comes out and says so, you'll never completely know. It's a complete assumption it's stealing data. It could be. Or it could be doing some local processing of the data as anti-spam measures, making sure a user isn't pasting messages into the comments quickly, since that's a common way of spamming without a bot.
 
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Oh, is this why I get a message saying "to use the app because its better experience" when I browse their website?

The virtual world became the Wild West. Each on his own, there are no regulators, no public rights, no laws.
 
if only reddit would fix the sharing to reminders bug that has been there for a year..
 
Funny thing is, I strongly suspect that it makes little to no difference to Apple whether this exists in apps due to a bug or due to snooping; they probably just want any behavior that takes place at every single keystroke to be minimized or eliminated, simply because it impacts performance. I'm quite certain that's why they implemented this clipboard-monitoring-monitor behavior in the first place; it gives them a chance to shame bad actors in the public square, as it were, while they sit back and watch.

The frustrating thing is, monitoring the monitors will have a net negative impact on performance, at least in the short term. It seems to me, the right answer is to move that kind of testing into the app submission process; after all, if you're going to have a walled garden, use the advantages it affords you.
 
Reddit also seems to have recently found a way to bypass disabled auto-play on desktop Safari. It's full of auto-playing videos for me again, but only Reddit videos, not embedded Streamable or YouTube.

The company has absolutely no time for respecting good UX practices. It's one thing after the other.
 
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Reddit also seems to have recently found a way to bypass disabled auto-play on desktop Safari. It's full of auto-playing videos for me again, but only Reddit videos, not embedded Streamable or YouTube.

The company has absolutely no time for respecting good UX practices. It's one thing after the other.

Yeah but geeks like Reddit so give it a pass. Meanwhile TikTok is the devil.

The standards these companies are held to varies depending on how much the tech community likes them for unrelated reasons. Worried about giving data to the Chinese government, but it's just fine that Google isn't providing end to end encrypted messaging services. Wonder why it's not encrypted?
 
Yeah but geeks like Reddit so give it a pass. Meanwhile TikTok is the devil.

The standards these companies are held to varies depending on how much the tech community likes them for unrelated reasons. Worried about giving data to the Chinese government, but it's just fine that Google isn't providing end to end encrypted messaging services. Wonder why it's not encrypted?

I fully agree. A lot of people holding some very conflicting personal narratives.

I don't know if I would equate Reddit to Tiktok just yet, but a lot of the stuff they're doing is fairly desperate and they're lightyears away from the service they were when they started. They're on a very slippery slope.
 
Look the app is pretty good and I enjoy it but it’s not some phenomenal app that is changing the way things are done or is doing anything groundbreaking. It’s just a pretty good basic app.

And that's exactly what apps should be. They're a tool, they're not meant to be dazzling displays of innovation.
 
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