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"Significant Internal Redesign". Does this mean same external form factor?
Hopefully this rumor proves to be true, I have been holding off buying a nano till they are updated. :)
 
I can't see what they can do with the Nano externally, unless they make the screen bigger. This would make sense though seeing as Apple have ditched Portal Player,

ShadoW
 
I wonder what these significant redesigns could be good for. Does the new chip allow other components to become better, e.g. better battery life or greater capacity?
 
i'm thinking the form factor will stay the same as it's the first significant update.

battery life will probably stay the same, while capacity will increase.

the major internal shake up is probably removing the PP chip, and including a custom designed system on chip, which could, in the future, run any ipod - to save costs.
 
8GB or 10GB PLEASE!

I love Nanos. Okay, the screen kind of puts me off a bit, and I find the length of it, I dunno, it seems too 'long' - stretched almost.

But the fact its an iPod, and its so thin.. well I want one :)

But, 2GB is nowhere near enough for me, 4GB isn't either.. although I am trying to justify it - but then when I think I had my 30GB Video for like £30 more, I can't justify it.

But, if I could get a 8GB (min.).. or an ideal 10GB.. I would definatley buy.

PS: Steve, a tiny bit bigger screen, please, Sir! :)
 
Apple's going to shrink the battery's physical size, but keep the Nano the same size so that they have room for a few more millimeters of unscratchable plastic. Please?

Also, maybe they'll make a detachable clickwheel for added mobility so that remote users can stuff half a nano down their pocket.
 
Or Perhaps

I know it's been done to death and I'm not entirely sure I even like the idea, but doesn't "significant internal redesign" spark the image of putting a mobile phone inside a nano? I know I'd prefer to have a phone that was a phone (Steve Jobs paraphrase: 'Each element of the design should be true to itself') But there is always the possibility that this is the reasoning behind the move away from PortalPlayer AND the (rumoured) redesign of the nano?

Just a thought

Stu
 
bigandy said:
[...] the major internal shake up is probably removing the PP chip, and including a custom designed system on chip, which could, in the future, run any ipod - to save costs.

Standard iPod chip with audio/video playback capabilities... I'm guessing 8GB/12GB iPod nano with video playback.
 
I'd rather they did something with the rather poor battery life iPods have before changing anything else.
 
I'll be happy with just 8G and more battery life. Actually, truth be told, I'd be happy with 8G, it just seems unfortunate that the battery life is so low for a device with no moving parts.

They could even downgrade certain aspects of it and I'd be happy. More battery life in exchange for a iPod 1G/2G/3G monochrome screen? That'd suit me! Unfortunately, I don't see that on the horizon as I suspect the marketing people would freak at the idea of something that's always had a colour screen switching to black and white. That's assuming it'd save battery life at all.

In addition to better battery life I'd like, but can live without, bluetooth (or some other wireless) support. Two reasons:

  1. I'm sure my iPod would be more frequently updated if I don't have to rummage around for cables.
  2. I'd like something that replaces my car stereo with a set of iPod controls that "just works" whenever I'm in range, so I don't need to wire it up to the stereo every time I get in the car. That'd be a killer device especially if it also included mobile phone handsfree support.

You might argue I'm lazy. That's true. But if I wasn't lazy, I wouldn't have an iPod, right? I'd save the money and buy a $50 256Mb player which can easily contain a day's worth of music, and just spend five minutes every morning loading it up.

Finally, Ogg Vorbis support would be great.

Anyway, those are nice to haves. The real thing that's stopping me getting a nano is capacity. If they can just get it to 8G, I'll put one on my wishlist.
 
josh.thomas said:
I love Nanos. Okay, the screen kind of puts me off a bit, and I find the length of it, I dunno, it seems too 'long' - stretched almost.

That's funny, I have a nano and when I see the bigger ipods they seem a bit, well, 'square'! :)

But, if I could get a 8GB (min.).. or an ideal 10GB.. I would definatley buy.

I've just reached the point where I have to be selective about what I put on my 4GB one. Yes, that size sounds perfect to me too! Unless I could get a reasonable deal on selling mine though, it would have to be after this one wears out. No idea what it would be worth or how long they last. Guess they haven't been out long enough to know yet.
 
The increase in storage for flash drives is certainly promising--I wouldn't be surprised to see all iPods converted to flash memory in the not too distant future.

I'm glad Apple is working on the Nano. I don't know if I would ever have use for one, unless the capacity is significantly upgraded, but it makes a nice gift. The article makes it sound (to me) like there's something more to the redesign...internal FM transmitter maybe? ;)
 
Shamus said:
"Significant Internal Redesign". Does this mean same external form factor?
I'd guess no. If they changed the form factor in a significant way they'd probably stop calling it the nano.
 
josh.thomas said:
I love Nanos. Okay, the screen kind of puts me off a bit, and I find the length of it, I dunno, it seems too 'long' - stretched almost.

But the fact its an iPod, and its so thin.. well I want one :)

But, 2GB is nowhere near enough for me, 4GB isn't either.. although I am trying to justify it - but then when I think I had my 30GB Video for like £30 more, I can't justify it.

But, if I could get a 8GB (min.).. or an ideal 10GB.. I would definatley buy.

PS: Steve, a tiny bit bigger screen, please, Sir! :)

Why not:

Nano - 40GB

vPod - 120+GB (because of movies)

That would be freakin' awesome! I hate limited capacity so much!
 
Transcode (down sample) on the fly.

The only thing putting me off buying any iPod, but most especially the Nano is the lack of one feature: transcode or down sample on the fly when synchronising iTunes to the iPod.

For those of us keeping our music in lossless on iTunes, the iPod/iTunes integration becomes non-existant since no iPod can carry that amount of music and even if it could, it would kill the battery. The only solution is to transcode when putting stuff on the iPod, which right now has to be done manually, killing the joy of the iTunes/iPod experience. The Shuffle actually has this ability! God knows why the rest of the iPod line (especially the Nano) don't have the feature!
 
backupdrummer said:
HD upgrade along with the addition of video. Then the iPod gets its big upgrade to a more feature rich "pro" iPod.

yeah right, nano with HD? on a 1.5" screen? i hope you mean normal ipod, like the rumored ones...
 
Doctor Q said:
I'd guess no. If they changed the form factor in a significant way they'd probably stop calling it the nano.

Have I told you you're awesome yet today, Doctor Q?

I think you're right, but they could come out with something new with the Nano taking the low end spot of the Shuffle. I don't pretend to know what it would be, but I think the Nano was the last "new" thing that Apple came out with. They've been so busy updating their line, with good reason, but when will Apple blow us away with something completely new?

Maybe I'm asking for too much too soon.
 
maybe the internal redesign is so they can make more room for video capabilities.

I want an iPod HiFi but am waiting to see if they do one that streams wirelessly via airport??
 
IMHO, the form factor of the nano is the form factor for the iPhone ... :p
I would not enjoy video in such a little screen unless it was 'real time' video, but what do I know, it seems teens enjoy their minivideos on mobile phones ... Maybe because there is nothing better ...
 
javierbds said:
IMHO, the form factor of the nano is the form factor for the iPhone ... :p
I would not enjoy video in such a little screen unless it was 'real time' video, but what do I know, it seems teens enjoy their minivideos on mobile phones ... Maybe because there is nothing better ...

I think an iPod would look a bit less iconic with a number pad on a phone, which is why I believe an iPhone would utilize Apples plans for the next video iPod and have a touch dial.
 
kneeslasher said:
The only thing putting me off buying any iPod, but most especially the Nano is the lack of one feature: transcode or down sample on the fly when synchronising iTunes to the iPod.

For those of us keeping our music in lossless on iTunes, the iPod/iTunes integration becomes non-existant since no iPod can carry that amount of music and even if it could, it would kill the battery. The only solution is to transcode when putting stuff on the iPod, which right now has to be done manually, killing the joy of the iTunes/iPod experience. The Shuffle actually has this ability! God knows why the rest of the iPod line (especially the Nano) don't have the feature!

Yes, just write a mail to Apple. Maybe they'll listen when other people besides me start bothering them too.
 
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