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You think the entry level MBPro is going to go from $1299 to $3999? Gee, I will take the under on that prediction, please. If the entry level MBPro is more than $1699 I will eat an Intel CPU.

Hyperbolic commentary.

Storage prices are absurd though (not just Apple, industry wide).
 
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Right now, the industry benchmark is 128-core CPUs for $4,000, so 16 fat cores should be < $500. Apple has always been cheaper since moving to their own CPUs, so we can hope. By next year, the $4,000 chips will be at 256 cores, so the bar keeps moving higher. But the key to all this is on a laptop, you typically only need that kind of power occasionally - while you do something intensive, like process video or run a game or a simulation. Most of the time, you're just using the low power cores. But when you need the power, there's never enough....
Yeeah it was just hyperbolic commentary on the absurd storage prices (not just Apple but industry wide).
 
Well, I wasn't really going to eat a CPU, so there. :cool: Storage is bad, but isn't Apple notoriously the worst of the worst, or has that changed to being just bleeding-edge bad?
Well for me personally Apple is the worst because they’re the only ecosystem I bother with these days LOL.

I would never say never, but I just don’t see any scenario where I would go back to PC or Android. And to be clear that’s not a knock on them. Everybody has different needs and competition is good for everybody.
 
I'm so ready for a new 16". Tired of beach balls on my 2017 MBP when running Xcode and Android Studio. I was on schedule to upgrade at the end of last year, but the reviews of the new M1 hardware were too positive to ignore!
 
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The irony of this post is amusing.

"Welcome back to common sense give us those dedicated single use ports".

"What do you mean it's not the single use port I personally have use for?"
Go play with your dongles, hubs and adaptors
 
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If these truly have only two efficiency cores, they cannot possibly be the same cores as M1. And then my prediction was right - no such thing as M1x.
Then both rumors can be true

- The Macs released this summer will still have the same M1 chip but with 10 cores.
- M2/M1X with totally different cores will be released next year

In any case, I am more interested in Apple supporting bigger RAM than getting more CPU power. Bring on the 32/64GB Macs, Apple!
 
I'm very curious to see how they price the different configuration options. Hopefully the config I'm after won't break/burn/demolish the bank...
 
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10-core MacBook Pro?

LOL this thing is going to start at like 4 grand. Another grand for the storage you need.
For me, it'll be a grand for the processor and another 4 grand for the storage I need. :) I'm going to go for 8 TB this time. I'm tired of having to get rid of perfectly good notebooks because I can't increase the storage anymore. My 2015MBP is an amazing laptop, still, but I can't fit into 2 TB any longer...
 
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Then both rumors can be true

- The Macs released this summer will still have the same M1 chip but with 10 cores.
- M2/M1X with totally different cores will be released next year

In any case, I am more interested in Apple supporting bigger RAM than getting more CPU power. Bring on the 32/64GB Macs, Apple!
The new MacBook pros will be announced at WWDC and will have new core architectures. They will not be based on the M1.
 
I was hoping for at least 75 cores, with 300 GPU cores. *sigh* Apple sure have lost the plot.
I also demand 'split-screen' with Photoshop for Mac on one half while I can play a PC game in the second window running the latest version of Windows! Otherwise: a fail.
 
I'd be willing to bet this model will support multiple external displays.

Sure hope so, but people have been saying it's a M1 limitation (heck if I know though). If they support multiple displays, I've got two 2016 MacBook pros waiting to be retired.
 
For me, it'll be a grand for the processor and another 4 grand for the storage I need. :) I'm going to go for 8 TB this time. I'm tired of having to get rid of perfectly good notebooks because I can't increase the storage anymore. My 2015MBP is an amazing laptop, still, but I can't fit into 2 TB any longer...

Damn! Professional I assume?

A terabyte is enough for me at this point. But even that is like a $600 bump on top of the entry level.

512gb should be the standard imo.
 
Damn! Professional I assume?

A terabyte is enough for me at this point. But even that is like a $600 bump on top of the entry level.

512gb should be the standard imo.
i'm 99% certain that he is joking. no professional actually needs 8tb on a laptop. anyone with such massive amount of storage would probably use a more redundant and reliable solution.
 
Sides and top would be terrible for cable strain, and yes would look even worse (although they'd at least be possible to access without having eyeballs on stalks.

I'm not sure any of those reasons are applicable as either pro/con for ports on the MBP. It's flat on a desk, and the sides are easily accessed.

Conversely, I hope the rumours/'leaks' prove to be wrong, because losing TB3 port(s) to "gain" useless (to me) ports like HDMI means I won't be upgrading my 'spare' machine (currently a 2018 MBP15). You can trivially adapt TB3/USB-C to HDMI. You can't trivially adapt HDMI to anything except DVI or VGA.
Bingo. Hdmi is inferior to DisplayPort in just about every way, and an sd slot is completely useless. Fine, do that on the consumer model, but for the power user, give us four tb4 ports (or more). i was anti dongle originally, but after enjoying the complete flexibility and performance, now I'm sold.

The problem is that there's literally one thunderbolt hub out there, and it's on huge back order, docks are mostly useless as they often wont daisy chain additional tb devices, and have a bunch of useless ports that make the price unattractive (e,g. HDMI and sd again). and none of the docks provide 96w of power, so you're still stuck using an exi port for that...though if the new ones use less, that's an option. But again, taking away a tb port for MagSafe power is just dumb.

and omg I hope that the rumored MagSafe power in the laptop isn't either a) an induction charger for the laptop (way too slow) or b) a way to let you MagSafe charge devices from the laptop (can't possibly see how that'd be functional when using the machine.
 
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what has been seen cannot be unseen

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Go play with your dongles, hubs and adaptors
The truth is sometimes hard to hear, isn’t it?


The problem is that there's literally one thunderbolt hub out there
There’s a couple of usb4 models now (some maybe still in preorder though) but they all require ac power.

It’s hard to see how Apple would “sell” (as in, marketing speak) a reduction in ports. I mean sure the whiners would probably buy one with nothing but a hdmi and USB-a ports, but for anyone who actually uses it for something other than connecting to a projector the loss of ports is gonna be a hard sell.
 
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someone help me out here

Does safari use the low energy cores or high performance cores?

I'm almost 100% on safari with my use. I'm under the impression that safari doesnt use high performance cores/multi thread or whatever. So if thats true...would a 2 low energy core machine run "slower" than a 4 core? that seems stupid to think the new processor would be "slower" than the old one. I realize Ram is what matters and I plan on getting 32gb of RAM as I'm a tab whore and have a few live view tabs etc. I have 16gb now that swaps and slows down, so I think I'm just going with 32gb next time.

So if anyone could speak to the CPU regarding safari I'd appreciate it. I had a hard time finding answers on google.
 
8 gpu core on m1 was rated as 2.6 teraflops, with updated 32 gpu cores, can we expect around 10 teraflops or even more? That's would be Gtx 1080 TI desktop performance.. Or between Gtx 3050 and Gtx 3060.. Would be huge jump for integrated gpu
 
someone help me out here

Does safari use the low energy cores or high performance cores?

I'm almost 100% on safari with my use. I'm under the impression that safari doesnt use high performance cores/multi thread or whatever. So if thats true...would a 2 low energy core machine run "slower" than a 4 core? that seems stupid to think the new processor would be "slower" than the old one. I realize Ram is what matters and I plan on getting 32gb of RAM as I'm a tab whore and have a few live view tabs etc. I have 16gb now that swaps and slows down, so I think I'm just going with 32gb next time.

So if anyone could speak to the CPU regarding safari I'd appreciate it. I had a hard time finding answers on google.
Safari likely uses high-performance cores for stuff like JS. It might force stuff like downloads to run on efficiency cores, though.

JS is largely single-threaded, so you benefit more from very fast cores (which the M1 has), not many cores (since only one will truly be busy).

Also, 32 GiB RAM is way overkill for Safari.
 
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