As above, just taken delivery and let the battery totally discharge and now just charged to 100%. Health is 89% with 2 battery cycles. Is this acceptable?
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Refurb 16" with 2 batt cycle @ 89% health
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Remember- the health will often start lower on a new battery before it calibrates. Mine was brand new (not refurbished) and it started at 94% health before stabilizing at around 97%.
Thanks, I’ll give it a few discharge/recharge cycles and see what happens.
Pleased to report with another recharge cycle (drain totally, charge 100% + 1hr while shut) my battery is showing 99% health.
Would appear the trick is to leave it on charge beyond the 100% for at least an hour.
Phew!
Would appear the trick is to leave it on charge beyond the 100% for at least an hour.
Phew!
Not surprised. I rebuilt a PowerBook battery a couple weeks ago and it took about 15 charge cycles to calibrate it.
I have had the same experience. Just got a refurb 16" - which cosmetically is PERFECT, and has a display with minimal DSE and zero backlight bleed - but the battery out of the box had 4 cycles, was 6.5 months old, 87% health and with an mAh in the 7.5k range. While doing the first calibration I called Apple and after speaking to tech support they confirmed that new batteries are fitted to refurbs. He said the 'age' of the battery is less relevant than the cycles/mha/heath.
So they said "see how it goes over the next two weeks, and if not happy we'll exchange".
Now after my first and only calibration the battery has jumped to 97%, 8485 mAh.
So in conclusion I think we have to accept the batteries are chemical and so do have some vagaries. I am not sure agonising over Battery Health app is a good idea
I'm really glad I saved £500 by going the refurb route (I got the i9 5500m 16" in silver).
So they said "see how it goes over the next two weeks, and if not happy we'll exchange".
Now after my first and only calibration the battery has jumped to 97%, 8485 mAh.
So in conclusion I think we have to accept the batteries are chemical and so do have some vagaries. I am not sure agonising over Battery Health app is a good idea
I'm really glad I saved £500 by going the refurb route (I got the i9 5500m 16" in silver).
I have had the same experience. Just got a refurb 16" - which cosmetically is PERFECT, and has a display with minimal DSE and zero backlight bleed - but the battery out of the box had 4 cycles, was 6.5 months old, 87% health and with an mAh in the 7.5k range. While doing the first calibration I called Apple and after speaking to tech support they confirmed that new batteries are fitted to refurbs. He said the 'age' of the battery is less relevant than the cycles/mha/heath.
So they said "see how it goes over the next two weeks, and if not happy we'll exchange".
Now after my first and only calibration the battery has jumped to 97%, 8485 mAh.
So in conclusion I think we have to accept the batteries are chemical and so do have some vagaries. I am not sure agonising over Battery Health app is a good idea
I'm really glad I saved £500 by going the refurb route (I got the i9 5500m 16" in silver).
Awesome! Forgive me but what is DSE? My screen looks good with no noticeable backlight bleed (although having an OLED TV I'll describe the MacBook screen as an even dark grey with a black screen on full brightness
)Zero reason not to go refurb. I'll happily save £660 for a plain white box
Yeah, the 10th Gen CPUs for these may appear at some point this year, but they'll be the same RRP as these ones and the refurbs won't appear for about 6 months after that.
EDIT: I got the i9 2.4, 32GB RAM, 8GB GPU and 2TB storage. If I could make any changes I'd probably lose the 2.4 i9 and get the 2.3 (save £200 in an RRP config), and then put that towards upgrading to 64GB RAM (+£400 in an RRP config). I've not seen such a config on a refurb although there was a 2.3/64GB/1TB/4GB VRAM one.
There's a trick that Apple uses because some people are absolutely anal about leaving their home if the battery isn't 100% charged. The kind of people that would rather miss their train then leaving with 99% charge.
Apple displays 100% _before_ the battery is full to the limit. And they perform battery tests with a battery that shows 100%, not one that is fully charged to the limit. Also, the last few percents take a long, long time and some people would complain if it takes ages to go from 99% to 100%. If you charge overnight, your battery might stay at 100% for a bit when you use it.
gnasher729: That explains a LOT.
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DSE is 'dirty screen effect' all LCD's have it; the effect of scrolling past pale or light colours looks like the screen is a little dirty, some call it 'screen door effect'. Don't look for it!! Some people spot it easier then others...chill
But my display has non-existent backlight bleeding as well
As for 10th Gen, it looks like about 15% improvement, same igpu. Plus AMD have not got anything newer than the 5500M. My guess is apple refersh the 16" with a super-soft 10th gen bump in the late summer / early fall, or wait until the next tock, or go all-in with ARM next year. But, I suppose the one thing a 2020 bump might get is Wifi 6. Though I guess the cheaper 16" might finally go 8 core.
Long story short, I'll take the discount
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Awesome! Forgive me but what is DSE? My screen looks good with no noticeable backlight bleed (although having an OLED TV I'll describe the MacBook screen as an even dark grey with a black screen on full brightness
Zero reason not to go refurb. I'll happily save £660 for a plain white box
Yeah, the 10th Gen CPUs for these may appear at some point this year, but they'll be the same RRP as these ones and the refurbs won't appear for about 6 months after that.
EDIT: I got the i9 2.4, 32GB RAM, 8GB GPU and 2TB storage. If I could make any changes I'd probably lose the 2.4 i9 and get the 2.3 (save £200 in an RRP config), and then put that towards upgrading to 64GB RAM (+£400 in an RRP config). I've not seen such a config on a refurb although there was a 2.3/64GB/1TB/4GB VRAM one.
DSE is 'dirty screen effect' all LCD's have it; the effect of scrolling past pale or light colours looks like the screen is a little dirty, some call it 'screen door effect'. Don't look for it!! Some people spot it easier then others...chill
But my display has non-existent backlight bleeding as well
As for 10th Gen, it looks like about 15% improvement, same igpu. Plus AMD have not got anything newer than the 5500M. My guess is apple refersh the 16" with a super-soft 10th gen bump in the late summer / early fall, or wait until the next tock, or go all-in with ARM next year. But, I suppose the one thing a 2020 bump might get is Wifi 6. Though I guess the cheaper 16" might finally go 8 core.
Long story short, I'll take the discount
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Mine has had no backlight bleed or DSE either. There was a whole thread on that when they first came out, which is when I got mine. Never had an issue though.
Mines an i7/32GB/1TB/5300M. It’s an great machine.
Mines an i7/32GB/1TB/5300M. It’s an great machine.
I am in love with it, even more so after I downloaded the PacMan across the Touch Bar thing
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What resolution are you chaps running? The default is scaled now by the look of it.
Thanks, I still can't quite believe the money I saved (and what I spent lol) ..... Not looked at pock, will check it out.
I am in love with it, even more so after I downloaded the PacMan across the Touch Bar thing
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What resolution are you chaps running? The default is scaled now by the look of it.
Default resolution for me. And I’ve used Pock but I use BetterTouchTool full time.
Default resolution with safari at 85%, abd I agree, Pock is good but I stuck with Btt.
Just to confirm, that's the default resolution of 1792 x 1120 ?
Seems odd they've gone with such a strange scaling as default
Yup
The first retina 15” defaulted to 2:1 scaling for perfect sharpness, but I think it was also because the igpu’s on the early retinas were pants
So I think Apple is more confident now pushing the igpu.
But I constantly veer between ‘default’ and ‘more space’.
BTW my battery life in use is excellent! I’m 100% on team refurb lol
Yup
The first retina 15” defaulted to 2:1 scaling for perfect sharpness, but I think it was also because the igpu’s on the early retinas were pants
So I think Apple is more confident now pushing the igpu.
But I constantly veer between ‘default’ and ‘more space’.
BTW my battery life in use is excellent! I’m 100% on team refurb lol
Excellent, I had 10.5 hours yesterday just using it, and not having to worry at all.
As for resolution, I'm toying between default and 1680 x 1050, which I enabled with QuickRes.
Love for the refurb!
Awesome! Forgive me but what is DSE? My screen looks good with no noticeable backlight bleed (although having an OLED TV I'll describe the MacBook screen as an even dark grey with a black screen on full brightness
Zero reason not to go refurb. I'll happily save £660 for a plain white box
Yeah, the 10th Gen CPUs for these may appear at some point this year, but they'll be the same RRP as these ones and the refurbs won't appear for about 6 months after that.
EDIT: I got the i9 2.4, 32GB RAM, 8GB GPU and 2TB storage. If I could make any changes I'd probably lose the 2.4 i9 and get the 2.3 (save £200 in an RRP config), and then put that towards upgrading to 64GB RAM (+£400 in an RRP config). I've not seen such a config on a refurb although there was a 2.3/64GB/1TB/4GB VRAM one.
Good to read this thread! I am eagerly awaiting my refurb 2.3/32gb/2TB/8GB VRAM. Retail £3,699.00 got it for £3,069.00 well happy with that. Those upgrades would have been out of my reach otherwise and it would have been a standard 2.3 model.
They did actually have a very similar model to what you wanted when I ordered yesterday morning. Never seen so many in the store as there was yesterday morning.
interesting to know about the battery so will look out for that.
I know, it's great eh! Fantastic savings.
Well I snagged my replacement spec yesterday morning, so may have been the one you saw. My 2.4/32gb/2TB/8GB VRAM cost £3239 (£660 saving), and the replacement 2.3/64GB/2TB/8GB VRAM was £3369 (£730 saving). I don't need the 2.4 and everyone says the difference is negligible. I thought having 64GB RAM instead makes it much more future proof. Arrives tomorrow and I hope everything is a good as this one that's going back because the screen/speakers etc are faultless.
Good luck with yours!
You too mate!!
I am gutted as it was supposed to be Tuesday delivery But I added a magic keyboard and not it’s 6-11 May!! Gutted!!
