Just got a few days ago my 'new' iphone, the 8gb refurb from ATT online. As you can see from the pics, it looks brand new as does the accessories. Works great, even the phone is clear and great reception. Heavier than I expected, but good feel and quality build. Edge is perfectly acceptable, I'm reading the news at lunch, no problem. Also, surprising how many hot spots are around, so even better. This is really a groundbreaking platform, makes me so much more productive, what with maps, internet, contacts,pics, ipod. The original warranty on this refurb expired in July 2008, faxed the purchase update info to Apple and now the warranty expires in March 2009! Thanks Apple!