Not sure where this belongs, but buy.com seems to have a good deal going on. Features Mac Pro Tower Intel Quad core Xeon 2.66 (2 x 2.66GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon processors) 4GB Memory 250GB SATA Hard disk 512MB ATI Radeon X1900XT DUAL DVI Video (MA631ZA) MAC OSX 10.4 Tiger (no Keyboard or Mouse) Warranty 90 Days 899, in stock. I know the limitations on the firmware, but to me it seems like a good deal. Enough ram to start working right away, decent video card. Plus a warranty for 90 days. No keyboard or mouse though. We should have a area in the forum for apple related deals.