none of the apple online stores are showing refurb mini systems anymore. there has always been a place holder even when there was no stock, but now they are not even listed on the refurb page. checked .au, .ca, and .uk and they also no longer show the mini. wonder if this is why all the ebay/retail shops (even woot) have been pushing out the low cost/refurb mini systems. and yes, i know i have a problem that i check the refurb page every day, thanks.