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I would just get the 4s. Its not different enough from the 4 to say its a drastic difference, but the improvements (mainly speed) are noticeable. Plus the camera is great.
 
If youre going to sell it in the future, there should be no doubt that you should go with the 4s. You can recoup your cost then. The speed and camera is very noticeable. I barely ever use Siri, but a 4 would feel slow for me.
 
But if I were to buy the 4s right now, and *hypothetically* a refurb, discounted model shows up on the ATT site on black friday or something, will I be able to return the one I got and get the cheaper one? Do they let you trade in like that within a certain time frame?

A couple years ago, AT&T sold refurbished iPhones off-contract for somewhere between $200 and $300. They sold out extremely quickly, and I haven't seen refurb'd iPhones on sale without a contract since that sale. AT&T and Verizon will eventually offer the 4S as refurbished, but they will be on-contract and will only be discounted $50 off of the new price.

By the way, you can get a nice iPhone 4 from cowboom.com for $300 off-contract. I got one recently for a gift for someone and it was in perfect condition.
 
That is because no one is buying those phones anymore, so they have to be reduced in price in order to move them off the shelves.
That is because Android innovation occurs so rapidly that a device released 2 months ago is outdated. Luckily for me I'm not a slave to vanity and don't need the most popular device available on the day it releases, which equals $$$ saved
 
Don't even start, I get enough crap at the office about it =P

I'm one of those minimalist types that enjoys technology but doesn't NEED it. I keep work and private life separate, you know? But it's gotten to a point where I can't argue against the features they have in the latest OS versions, and I'd love to have a decent camera and GPS all in my pocket.

Also thanks for the replies everyone... it sounds like there PROBABLY won't be a 4s available for less than 200 anytime soon..

But if I were to buy the 4s right now, and *hypothetically* a refurb, discounted model shows up on the ATT site on black friday or something, will I be able to return the one I got and get the cheaper one? Do they let you trade in like that within a certain time frame?

Yeah, this just doesn't make sense to me; if you're an OS developer, why wouldn't you WANT the latest/greatest iPhone?

Seems really odd . . .
 
Yeah, this just doesn't make sense to me; if you're an OS developer, why wouldn't you WANT the latest/greatest iPhone?

Seems really odd . . .

Because we have devices at work, I can bring one home if I need to do more work, and as I said I'm a minimalist and don't always need technology in my personal life?

I understand your're probably a big iPhone fan and can't fathom a life without a smartphone, but as I said I keep work and private life separate, and you're being very condescending about that.
 
I don't think he was being condescending he doesn't know you had them at your work he could have inferred that maybe you were using an iPod touch or iPad considering this to be your first iPhone
 
As others above have said, the 4S will not go on sale until the iPhone 5 is released.

Yet another reason why I prefer Android...within 1-2 months of release, third party retailers like Amazon Wireless and Wirefly start offering the phones for 50%+ off.

Hell, the Droid RAZR - which pre-orderers paid $300 for last week - is on sale for $111 tomorrow on Amazon Wireless.

Android troll, this is an iPhone forum, not a android is better than any OS forum:p
Plus with android, your phone is outdated in 2 seconds :eek:
 
Because we have devices at work, I can bring one home if I need to do more work, and as I said I'm a minimalist and don't always need technology in my personal life?

I understand your're probably a big iPhone fan and can't fathom a life without a smartphone, but as I said I keep work and private life separate, and you're being very condescending about that.

Wow . . . does somebody have some thin skin, or what?
 
That is because Android innovation occurs so rapidly that a device released 2 months ago is outdated. Luckily for me I'm not a slave to vanity and don't need the most popular device available on the day it releases, which equals $$$ saved

That's also why they sell for crap. iPhones retain their value much much better
 
i've been considering whether to get the (new) 4 for $1 or the 4s for $100 (also new, b/c at the moment at&t has none of the 4s refurbs for $50). i currently have the 3gs. the only diff i can find btw the 4 & 4s is siri (which i don't care abt), better camera (8mp as opposed to 5, not a deal-breaker) & the faster processor (this would be good, but from what i've been told, it's just a tad faster). sooo, as far as i can tell, the 4 for $99 less is prob the better deal. the big diff for me btw the 3gs & 4 is the flash for camera w/ the 4. i've been trying to find a definitive answer on the warranty issue for new vs refurbs, but that is an elusive li'l bugger.
 
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