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That is what a re-form is. Apple rebuilds them with new case and any new parts. Same warranty and all. You can't tell them from new.

In fact for "peace of mind" the refurb is better because it was tested in a local US service centers for a bet longer then the new units are tested in China.

Many times the refurbs come over spec'd. The the Mac had a RAM upgrade and was returned the RAM is left in. I saw that with a refurb'd Mini once.

I'd call then better than new.

My 27" (older gen) looked like new, cost less, has the same warranty and the savings let me max the memory (for less cost than the original base model!).
 
I've only ever had one problem with a refurbished product from Apple… a few years ago i purchased a black macbook when they first came out, ends up that mine wouldn't go to sleep when it was closed. took it to an authorized mac repair shop, no apple stores in the area at the time, and the guy there found that the magnet, used in the screen to tell it to go to sleep when closed, was missing.

that was it… all my other computer purchases have been from the refurb store and i've never had a single problem.

list of refurb purchases include my current mac mini and my wifes 20 inch iMac from 2009, and in the past i've had a dual 1.8 G5, and the afore mentioned macbook.

the only thing we haven't purchased refurb, where our phones because of contracts and our iPads because we happened to have ridiculous amounts of gift cards at the time…

so needless to say i'm planning on hopping on the bandwagon for one of these 27" iMacs. it's such a good deal and an amazing value… if they ever show back up….
 
What about their thirty-inch Screen - it took you a full ten seconds to take in both sides by looking left to right. Like watching a slow game of Tennis with Andy Murray and Roger Federer:D
 
checking the site like I do, and if I hadn't already picked up my iMac for Xmas, I would have jumped all over this deal!

http://store.apple.com/us/product/G0PG4LL/A/refurbished-27-inch-imac-35ghz-quad-core-intel-core-i7

could have saved so much $$$$

That's the one I was planning on getting but it's listing seems to go in and out of stock rapidly and frequently. Unfortunately during the week or so period that I was ready to purchase, it was out of stock. I ended up going with the 2012 3.4ghz i7 listed in my signature (only 8gb ram stock) for $1,999. It's technically not much slower than the fully maxed 2013 you linked, but I sure would have loved to have 4gb video ram and the faster pcie based fusion drive. But the $289 savings did make upgrading the RAM easier on my wallet.
 
That's the one I was planning on getting but it's listing seems to go in and out of stock rapidly and frequently. Unfortunately during the week or so period that I was ready to purchase, it was out of stock. I ended up going with the 2012 3.4ghz i7 listed in my signature (only 8gb ram stock) for $1,999. It's technically not much slower than the fully maxed 2013 you linked, but I sure would have loved to have 4gb video ram and the faster pcie based fusion drive. But the $289 savings did make upgrading the RAM easier on my wallet.

Agreed the extra ram makes the machine feel extra speedy, I have an i7 27" iMac 2011 model at work (pre the redesign) running with a 7200rpm drive but because it's maxed out at 32gb of ram I get to run xcode, photoshop and my many other tools I need for work at the same time w/o any slowness :)
 
I always hear how Apple refurbished machines are "rigorously tested," but does anyone have any proof that they are subject to any additional testing beyond standard production machines?

The thread is now a bit old, but I've just seen the "quote" notification - Apple's website says "We test and certify all Apple refurbished products and include a 1-year warranty." So, if they are confident enough to offer standard warranty, I see no reason why there would be any doubts regarding the general reliability of these machines. I admit, it might be that I simply regurgitated what I heard from others about the "rigorous" testing, but I don't think refurbs are risky buy either.
 
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