I remember the boom times with much fondness. Each new announcement was exciting and you never knew what Apple would come up with next.
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Remember how exciting 2005-2011 was for Apple?
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...those were the days.... i would go so far as saying Apple was a better company back then too not just for their products.
3D touch reminds me always of 3D TV....... Both didn't, or at least, one of them didn't pan out. but the other have it small users...
Either case the old days were better, large advances,, but now its all small under the hood, or visual stuff, small hardware improvements... Nothing to scream about.
3D touch reminds me always of 3D TV....... Both didn't, or at least, one of them didn't pan out. but the other have it small users...
Either case the old days were better, large advances,, but now its all small under the hood, or visual stuff, small hardware improvements... Nothing to scream about.
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It was the times before Facebook and social media. Now all the efforts are towards making you addicted to your devices.
Your topic was literally discussed two days ago between a group of therapists and psychologists here in Miami. We are losing the millennials and the name of Steve Jobs came out and one therapists mentioned: we used to have big innovations and now everything is focussed into making people look at their screens every day and the lack of social skills and anxiety is growing big time.
Your topic was literally discussed two days ago between a group of therapists and psychologists here in Miami. We are losing the millennials and the name of Steve Jobs came out and one therapists mentioned: we used to have big innovations and now everything is focussed into making people look at their screens every day and the lack of social skills and anxiety is growing big time.
I share your nostalgia.
And it's well-founded nostalgia. Steve Jobs was a legend who towered over everyone. He brought magic to Apple and to the world. Sadly, those halcyon days are over. Much as Tim Cook is a good caretaker, he's not in the same league as Jobs.
I'm afraid we can only look forward to decline. That's a painful prospect, and one that is hard to bear. We must be thankful for the past glory of Apple, and enjoy our Apple gear as best we can. There is still much to savour. Autumn is still a beautiful season, even though it presages winter.
And it's well-founded nostalgia. Steve Jobs was a legend who towered over everyone. He brought magic to Apple and to the world. Sadly, those halcyon days are over. Much as Tim Cook is a good caretaker, he's not in the same league as Jobs.
I'm afraid we can only look forward to decline. That's a painful prospect, and one that is hard to bear. We must be thankful for the past glory of Apple, and enjoy our Apple gear as best we can. There is still much to savour. Autumn is still a beautiful season, even though it presages winter.
I got my first Mac in 2007 and that was because of the first iPhone. I kept hearing about how things worked so seamlessly between a Mac and iPhone and all I had was an HP laptop. I never regretted buying that Mac or even getting an iPhone.
Since then, I've owned every iPhone except the current one and the iPhone 5 and I've owned numerous Macs.
I don't care about anything else they do. I still like the iPhone and the MBP.
I still remember how excited I used to get when they would announce the new iPod every September and the Macs were the same way.
The last two Macs I bought were the 2012 13" MBP and the 2015 15" MBP. I bought both this past summer and I wanted to own a MBP that still had a optical drive since I still occasionally use CDs in my car. Yes, there still is a market for computers with optical drives. BestBuy still carries many Windows computers (from $300 on up to $2000+) that have optical drives but yet only a 2012 MBP still has the optical drive.
I still like Apple, just not that they sell watches and will probably sell a car one day.
Since then, I've owned every iPhone except the current one and the iPhone 5 and I've owned numerous Macs.
I don't care about anything else they do. I still like the iPhone and the MBP.
I still remember how excited I used to get when they would announce the new iPod every September and the Macs were the same way.
The last two Macs I bought were the 2012 13" MBP and the 2015 15" MBP. I bought both this past summer and I wanted to own a MBP that still had a optical drive since I still occasionally use CDs in my car. Yes, there still is a market for computers with optical drives. BestBuy still carries many Windows computers (from $300 on up to $2000+) that have optical drives but yet only a 2012 MBP still has the optical drive.
I still like Apple, just not that they sell watches and will probably sell a car one day.
Can't believe this...3D is the first real innovation Apple made in the post Jobs era. Its potential is huge unlike 3D TV. Nostalgia is very deceptive.
I really hope this isn't the case, but it's starting to look true. For as much money as Apple makes and continues to boast YOY profits without any sign of slowing, they have started to lose their magic. Products post-Jobs just don't seem exciting or innovative. As much as I like my Apple Watch, it'd be hard for me to recommend it to a friend or buy another one if the one I have breaks or something. The Apple car also better be a joke. That would be bad if they started making a car, and I guarantee, even if I were a millionaire, I wouldn't be buying one.
I've said it once and I'll say it again: Apple needs to refocus on their core products and stop dabbling in markets just for the sake of competing (Apple Watch, iPad Pro (kind of), Apple Car).
I think you're reminiscing during a time when there were some new technology and Apple successfully leveraging that technology.
For instance, you mention the mid 2,000, well I remember the 80s and 90s as being truly exciting when people were trying different things with computers. There were lots of computer clubs, computer shows and what not. Nothing as equaled that level of excitement and eagerness since.
Now in 2015, the phone industry as matured to the point like the computer industry and there's really no more excitement. Any new update is minor and measured.
I have to agree that the 80's and 90's were the most exciting years, but 2005 to 2011 it all started to gel with macs being really insanely great. Now I find myself since 2011 disappointed with Apple's hardware direction, and cringe at Apple keynotes..
For the Macs, I agree with you to a point. I think the 2012 rMBP is the pinnacle of laptop design, power and performance. I'm thinking about a new computer next year and the iMac has what I need. Conversely I'm not really worked up over what's out there for non-apple hardware (I like the Surface Book but its too pricey I think). That is the apple hardware is still better.
For me the late Oct. 17" MBP is the pinnacle of laptops which I hoped that Apple would have perfected further - ie higher resolution matte screen, and of course the use of better solder in the graphics card
. The pinnacle of laptop design and build quality for me is the Powerbook 17" - which I still use for nostalgia - (with a legacy SSD upgrade)As for non-Apple hardware - started on a mac 128K and always on a mac since. With Apple's planned obsolescence in all that is hardware now, I have not been able to pull the trigger on a new mac since 2011. (non user serviceable hardware or Applecare for a family of 6 (with four kids), is not really economically viable in my book, since I like to keep my comps useful for many years and do repairs myself.
Not really fond of windows (one of my kids is a hardcore PC head, another kid converted from PC to mac and didn't look back). I realize however most of the difference in GUI preference is a matter of familiarity, but I would still argue the mac OS as more efficient in managing and elegance in GUI... but even that is faltering a bit these days it seems.
That's one of items that really bothers me quite bit.
2012 was the last year Apple made products I really liked.. Never really liked my Mini 2 as it has aged terribly compared to my iPad 2.
I do agree.. Apple up till about 2011/2012 was very interesting and exciting. Now all that happens is "thin and lighter" and cost cutting. The Macbook reached my favourite iteration in 2012 with the last non retina Macbook. Perfect mix of expandability, ports, features without too much compromise. The last iPhone I found exiting was the 5. i remember back then I used to get excited by rumours and stuff. Now I fear apple events due to the ports and functionality that will be lost with each 'advance'.
I do agree.. Apple up till about 2011/2012 was very interesting and exciting. Now all that happens is "thin and lighter" and cost cutting. The Macbook reached my favourite iteration in 2012 with the last non retina Macbook. Perfect mix of expandability, ports, features without too much compromise. The last iPhone I found exiting was the 5. i remember back then I used to get excited by rumours and stuff. Now I fear apple events due to the ports and functionality that will be lost with each 'advance'.
Sites like this one and other news sites pretty much predict the entire outcome of the keynotes before they happen. Essentially spoilers.
While some will enjoy looking at the predictions/previews, others will then want to be surprised come keynote time. Only way that is gonna happen is if you switch off from sites like this.
Same for anything. You read the spoilers then watch the event/show/film, you ain't gonna be surprised and feel this alleged magic that people harp on about.
I just find it funny that you think its any different now from 5 or 10 years ago.
While some will enjoy looking at the predictions/previews, others will then want to be surprised come keynote time. Only way that is gonna happen is if you switch off from sites like this.
Same for anything. You read the spoilers then watch the event/show/film, you ain't gonna be surprised and feel this alleged magic that people harp on about.
I just find it funny that you think its any different now from 5 or 10 years ago.
Nah....I'm sailing along in it with a nice Merlot in my hand....Trust me, you've already missed the boat...
There simply isn't all that much to improve. They can get longer battery life, faster SSDs, faster processors, etc., but a mobile phone has been perfected as a rectangular object with touch screen and a form of touch ID. Force/3D touch fails to impress me as true innovation. But it's probably as good as it gets. Similar to Adobe CC products or Office. At some point you really run out of stuff to stick into a word processor.
The new rMB, as much as I dislike it, is something exciting because there has never been a laptop THIS portable. Suddenly an Air looks fat and huge. But it still is a thing that opens, presenting a screen, keyboard and touchpad. Siri/Cortana is the one exciting invention, even though it's not available on Macs yet, because it genuinely is something new. The rMB, sexy as it is, is just a thinner, lighter laptop with smaller bezels. iPad Pro is a big iPad. Apple Pencil is a perfected stylus. None of them are a whole new category of products, which we sort of got used to. When iPhone came out there was nothing like it available. When Apple Watch came out, there was a whole huge pile of similar devices, none of them very good. I leave it to you to decide whether Apple Watch really is better than everything else, or it's just "a new Apple thing I don't have yet". Personally I have no need for a smartwatch, no matter who produced it.
The next big thing I expect to see will be implants. Google Glass has shown that people REALLY have no wish to be potentially filmed and photographed non-stop. Therefore the next version will have to be as near to invisible as possible. I'm not looking forward to it. But that's the only true innovation I can foresee. There are already laptops, tablets, phablets, touchscreen laptops, tablets with keyboards, keyboards with detachable screens, etc. Touch screen Mac OS would be SORT OF exciting but hardly an innovation. Apple Car sounds interesting (same as Google car, and Tesla self-driving car, and...) but it's as likely to change my life as Segways (which were marketed as life-changing). In the meantime, things will become thinner, slightly faster and have more pixels. I've read something about extremely fast flash memory, but still, it will be a faster version of the thing we have already. 4K video is a version of the thing we had already but with more pixels. I don't think even Jobs could change all that.
Wake me up when I can go to the moon for $99 return.
The new rMB, as much as I dislike it, is something exciting because there has never been a laptop THIS portable. Suddenly an Air looks fat and huge. But it still is a thing that opens, presenting a screen, keyboard and touchpad. Siri/Cortana is the one exciting invention, even though it's not available on Macs yet, because it genuinely is something new. The rMB, sexy as it is, is just a thinner, lighter laptop with smaller bezels. iPad Pro is a big iPad. Apple Pencil is a perfected stylus. None of them are a whole new category of products, which we sort of got used to. When iPhone came out there was nothing like it available. When Apple Watch came out, there was a whole huge pile of similar devices, none of them very good. I leave it to you to decide whether Apple Watch really is better than everything else, or it's just "a new Apple thing I don't have yet". Personally I have no need for a smartwatch, no matter who produced it.
The next big thing I expect to see will be implants. Google Glass has shown that people REALLY have no wish to be potentially filmed and photographed non-stop. Therefore the next version will have to be as near to invisible as possible. I'm not looking forward to it. But that's the only true innovation I can foresee. There are already laptops, tablets, phablets, touchscreen laptops, tablets with keyboards, keyboards with detachable screens, etc. Touch screen Mac OS would be SORT OF exciting but hardly an innovation. Apple Car sounds interesting (same as Google car, and Tesla self-driving car, and...) but it's as likely to change my life as Segways (which were marketed as life-changing). In the meantime, things will become thinner, slightly faster and have more pixels. I've read something about extremely fast flash memory, but still, it will be a faster version of the thing we have already. 4K video is a version of the thing we had already but with more pixels. I don't think even Jobs could change all that.
Wake me up when I can go to the moon for $99 return.
I'm typing this from a LinTel machine
So am I. Dell C2D, now running Linux Mint/Cinnamon. With Windows 10, MS sort of "lost the plot" in my opinion, so WinTel is not a viable option for me. I still like my iMac and 17" MBP, don't get me wrong, but I haven't updated my MBP beyond Mavericks, and my iMac is still running fine on Snow Leopard.
As navaira has explained above, a lot of the innovation in the electronics sector as of late is evolutionary rather than revolutionary. I think that in order to impress enthusiasts now, it will take something so left-field as, say, 3-D holographic displays.
I think it is a combination of this, and that the markets are maturing so while Apple is still being just as innovative with new technology as they always have been the changes in technology that they have to work with are getting smaller and smaller.