Remote wipe/kill necessity?

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by Steve686, Apr 13, 2015.

  1. Steve686 macrumors 68040


    Nov 13, 2007
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    Just wondering if there is a need for the Apple Watches to have a remote kill or wipe function as the phones do. Not sure if anything is actually stored on the Watch or 100% linked with the phones.

    I know there is Apple Pay association, but not sure if the system wouldn't still be secure since I assume your phone has to be within range of the watch to activate Apple Pay.

    Discussion on scenarios or more info is appreciated.
  2. Command macrumors regular


    Jan 23, 2015
    Not likely required. All managed through iPhone. The primary reason for remote wipe is data security and the data won't be in the watch.
  3. Armen macrumors 604


    Apr 30, 2013
    how would you remote wipe when the watch has no cellular connection?
  4. zacheryjensen macrumors 6502a


    May 11, 2009
    First, your phone does not need to be in range at all to use Apple Pay. It will require you to enter a PIN each time you put the watch on if the phone is not nearby. If the watch is removed, it will lock again automatically. Apple Pay on the watch will require your watch is able to detect it's on your skin, btw, which means not wearing it over sleeves or some such fashion faux pas.

    Second, almost nothing is stored on the watch currently that would necessitate remote wipe. When you associate a card with apple pay on the watch it actually makes a new device specific ID separate from the one you may already have on your phone. Second, this ID can be invalidated without any contact with the watch/phone as it is invalidated by the card issuer.

    Third party apps can't store anything that isn't included in their bundle from the app store except generated images, which are probably only kept in RAM, but, this I can't confirm. It's the most likely source of data loss concerns.

    Some things like your activity tracking results from a run before getting back to the phone may be stored, but, so what?

    You might have up to 2gb of music. I guess you could've stupidly encoded secrets into audio files and synchronized them to the watch.

    You have a small space for synchronizing photos. Don't synch anything sensitive like your collection of GILF porn. Nobody needs to see that on their arm.

    All that said, it's actually possible for the watch to have a remote wipe capability in the sense that, if someone was to try to pair it, the watch app could check for reported lost/stolen items and respond by notifying you of its best guessed location and deleting all its data right then and there.

    I'll go ahead and suspect some better thought out security measures exist, but, we'll have to wait a bit to be sure. Still, there isn't a large threat here, not even with the apple pay feature.
  5. Steve686 thread starter macrumors 68040


    Nov 13, 2007
    US>FL>Miami/Dade>Sunny Isles Beach>Condo
    So all data will flow through BT or WiFi connection to iPhone?

    Ahh. One thing just crossed my mind.

    Movie theaters are now going to look like nights that lightning bugs come out and light up the night. Random thought. Wonder if there is a "dark mode" and not just low light for being in a theater.

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