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Hey -

I am looking for feedback from those of you that work remote, or even hybrid work (decent split between office and home/elsewhere).

  • Looking back, what things do you wish you knew prior to being in this working arrangement?
  • What have you learned along the way that have made your remote working life better or improved your career?
  • What struggles do you currently have?
  • Any other comments
Looking more into this working arrangement and I am really interested to know folks experiences, issues, learnings etc. Also interested if there is anything from a hardware/ways of working point of view that is worth knowing.

Thanks.
 
Hey -

I am looking for feedback from those of you that work remote, or even hybrid work (decent split between office and home/elsewhere).

  • Looking back, what things do you wish you knew prior to being in this working arrangement?
  • What have you learned along the way that have made your remote working life better or improved your career?
  • What struggles do you currently have?
  • Any other comments
Looking more into this working arrangement and I am really interested to know folks experiences, issues, learnings etc. Also interested if there is anything from a hardware/ways of working point of view that is worth knowing.

Thanks.
I work from home 100% so here is my take.

• I wish I had known: How long it would take to arrange a setup I was going to be comfortable with.

I started working from home with my employer issued monitors, keyboard, mouse and Mac. I still have the Mac but the monitors, keyboard and mouse are back at work. I use my own stuff now. My monitors are connected via a KVM switch, which was a purchase I made on my own. Plus all the other stuff (adapters, etc) needed to make my much larger monitors work with the company Mac.

The company Mac is always in clamshell mode and sits out of the way. I never use it except for work despite being told 'It's your Mac now.'

• What have I learned along the way: It's going to be better and more comfortable to use your own stuff (aside from the computer itself).

The less your work stuff takes over your home the better. I have my own workspace and all the stuff that came with the company Mac was either invading my space or forcing me to use a different space (which made my wife unhappy). Find a happy medium where there is a balance and the work equipment is not overpowering your own stuff.

• What struggles do I currently have: Being out of the loop. I've been told certain things at the various times it was necessary (for one reason or another) to go in to the office. So far not much of it has born fruit. I've had to make the decision that this doesn't matter. Whatever the company does the most important thing is happening and that is the deposit of my paycheck in my account on the expected dates.

• Other comments: The nature of what I do means I do not have to deal with Zoom or any other sort of video communication. Most comms are done either via email or Google chat. On occasion I may have to text or call but that's rare.

I don't have a problem showing up on time, I'm usually at the computer anyway. It's just a matter of hitting the KVM switch. Interruptions don't bother me, but those really only happen during the summer when the kids and the wife are not in school (my wife is a teacher). Fortunately my boss is flexible and as long as my eight hours are in and I keep the schedule I make we're good. I just have to alert the guy that schedules my workload.

I did have to learn that my own personal schedule is important. At the beginning I was just showing up at my desk in whatever clothes and condition I felt like. I'm still a professional so staying in that mindset is important. Take care of your hygiene and show up ready to work when you're scheduled to start. Keep the routine because if you don't you'll find yourself slacking on other stuff.

That isn't to say I don't show up in shorts and no shirt (it's hot in the summer and our central A/C isn't working) but I have had my shower, my coffee and run through my morning routine.
 
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Here's a recording of a webinar I think has a lot of great suggestions for making working remotely with others more effective and productive:

(Full video)

(Quick text summary)

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And from an earlier MR thread:
 
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I'm 100% work from home:

  • Looking back, what things do you wish you knew prior to being in this working arrangement?
There's not really anything I was unprepared for except how much better life got. I have significantly more free time (hours more) throughout the day from not having to wake up at 3:30am just to fit the gym into my day, nor worrying about my commute to and from work.
  • What have you learned along the way that have made your remote working life better or improved your career?
Honestly nothing remote work specific. It's just my same job except not in a loud office with a white noise generator above my desk, and constant noise and distractions. Life is better because during lunch I can go to the gym, or do stuff I need to do around the house so my evenings are free.
  • What struggles do you currently have?
None. There's literally no negatives for me with work from home, all positives.
  • Any other comments
Make sure you have a nice office space for yourself and be sure to leave work at work when it's time to quit.
 
It's just my same job except not in a loud office with a white noise generator above my desk, and constant noise and distractions.
After 14.5 years in one job, the business was sold and I found myself doing what I do now. But pre-pandemic I was in the office with a 45 to 90 minute trip during rush hour that is normally 25 minutes without traffic.

They stuck me in a back room at the office with a guy that travels a lot for the job. So essentially I was back there by myself. If I wanted to talk to anyone I had to come up front. Once the pandemic hit and we all started working from home I realized I wanted to make it permanent. Which isn't a problem because they had gone to laptops before I was hired. The idea was if you were sick at home for any length of time you could still go work. So, that just became permanent.

People are back in the office now, but just those who actually have to be there. There's also been the death of one designer due to Covid and another quit. Another designer made herself permanent too. So, considering I was in the back area with zero people to talk to 90% of the time and the people I started with are no longer at the office, I'm much happier being home. Kind of the same thing but not because my family is here during the summer. During the winter I get out because I have people to take places and pick up.

There's also other things I can do at home that being in the office would not allow. Having a TV on for background noise for my entire shift would not be possible, but is something I do every day from home.
 
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I agree with just about everything eyoungren said.

I think that Working from Home is fantastic if you can make it work, but it does take some planning & Effort to make it successful. I wouldn't change it for anything, but it's definitely not for everyone.

One thing I wish I would have done sooner is buy a larger monitor. I was using my two work supplied monitors and it worked fine, but it is so much nicer to have one very large 34" monitor. That was a big help.

Along those same lines, don't be afraid to spend a little bit of money to make things work for you. You're saving a ton of money not commuting & it's ok to invest some in making your workspace better. Like eyoungren, I bought my own monitor, bluetooth keyboard & mouse, laptop stand, etc. And it's made life much more pleasant. I'd also splurge on a better internet package/provider if you need it. I have Spectrum and they have been great overall. I did try a step up from their basic package, but in the end it offered no benefit over their basic package, once VPN speeds were factored in, so I cancelled it, but if you find yourself getting disconnected frequently or people have trouble hearing you over weber or whatever, invest a little to make it better.

One huge thing is an office chair. You're going to be sitting in it for 8+ hours a day, make sure that you get a good one. You don't need to spend $1,000 on a chair, but don't buy a $49 big box store special. I guess that leads into ergonomics. Make sure that your desk, chair, monitor, etc are all comfortable to use for extended periods of time. A small pain in your neck, wrist, back, etc will become a huge pain over time. Eliminate any pain point as soon as you feel it.

Another thing for me is to have a separate room for an office. Obviously this isn't practical for everyone, but it's super helpful if you can swing it. You have a quiet place to work undistracted, it's easier on conference calls to be able to close the door, and you can leave your work behind at the end of the night. That's not as easy to do if your office is against the wall in the living room.

If you live with others, it's important to set expectations early that you are still working. Just because you're home doens't mean you can continuously help out. Obviously there is some flexibility there, but you need to be careful that you don't forget you're getting paid to work (unless you're freelancing or consulting or something like that).

And the flip side of that, make sure that you keep work and life boundaries. (Another reason for the office with a door you can close). It's great to work from home, but it's also super easy to hop on and check email at all hours. Don't let it take over your personal life too. There are times when work is busy & it's ok to work a lot then, but if you're working all the time, all the time, then there is something wrong.

I've found that I'm still really engaged with my team at work, but it's much harder to have wider ranging contacts. You will pass people fro mother departments in the halls at work & get to know them & say Hi. But when you're remote, you tend to only interact with people you work with. Those spontaneous connections definitely get lost.

Be realistic with yourself. If you're not self-motivated, definitely put some barriers in place to allow you to work at a high level. Being in the office builds in some barriers automatically, but at home, it's much easier to slack if you aren't intentional about work. (move your computer out of the bedroom and away from the TV, put away distractions, etc)

A lot depends on the specifics of your situation, but if you are working remotely but close to others, try to schedule lunches or dinners occasionally. I have a group of co-workers that I go out to lunch with once a month, and some others that I meet with quarterly. That has really helped to keep me socialized. Freindships are (or can be) a big part of work, and are probably the one thing I miss about going into the office (not enough to go back in, but definitely noticeable).

This is probably a personal thing for me, and maybe not good advice for others, but I bought an extra phone to use for work. An iPod, old deactivated phone or an iPad would also work. I just find that there are times that I need to check my work calendar or email or whatever & it's much easier to turn on the phone, than to fire up the laptop. I also find it a lot easier to turn it back off. With my work computer, I end up getting sucked back into work, where I don't with the phone. But I don't keep my work data on my personal phone, or else it's always there, and it's hard to avoid work. You could be on a long weekend, hanging out with friend, then go to use your phone to order an Uber, then you see the red circle that you have a work email, and it takes you right back to work. Better to keep those separate (at least in my book).
 
One last thing I just thought of. If you are looking to move & start remote working, I wouldn't recommend that (or at least not buying a house somewhere with the plan to work remotely. It is definitely a different lifestyle & not for everyone. You may not like it & at that point, you'd be stuck with a house. Definitely better to rent (or stick on a house you currently live in or one that is close to work) for the first few months, until you decide if it's right for you.
 
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I agree with just about everything eyoungren said.

I think that Working from Home is fantastic if you can make it work, but it does take some planning & Effort to make it successful. I wouldn't change it for anything, but it's definitely not for everyone.

One thing I wish I would have done sooner is buy a larger monitor. I was using my two work supplied monitors and it worked fine, but it is so much nicer to have one very large 34" monitor. That was a big help.

The first month or so I had things set up at the kitchen table and was breaking it down on weekends. That wasn't going to work long term as my wife objected, so I switched to using my own apps on my own computer.

My wife ceded a certain part of the living room to my computers some time in 2016 or so. This is where my setup is. Pre-kids, she had her room, I had mine and we both had the master bedroom together (we've always rented homes since getting married in 1997). But when two kids came along (2003 and 2008) that meant both of us giving that up - which meant the garage for me. But the garage is not conducive during Phoenix, AZ summers. Hence, her ceding part of the living room.

That worked fine, until things with apps went wonky at work. That forced me back to the work laptop - which meant the kitchen again. Yet again, not a long term solution.

Ultimately I decided on a KVM switch. But the purchase of two 30" Apple Cinema Displays (for my own Mac) necessitated finding a dual link KVM and two Apple adapters so the work MBP could drive those 30" monitors (via the KVM switch).

One of the 30"s was a local pickup from craigslist for $100 and the other was around $300 off eBay. My own MacPro is hooked up to six displays so I also took the opportunity to get two 24" Cinema Displays for about $150 each. The work MBP can't use those.

It's funny what you find. Apparently the 2012 MBP will drive two 30" CDs AND a third display (assuming clamshell mode), but a 2015 MBP (which is my work Mac) will NOT. The '15 will only drive the two 30" CDs and it's own internal display OR just two 30" CDs in clamshell mode.

So…all this was my own money, but it benefits me and makes working easier. The work Mac sits out of the way in clamshell mode 100% of the time and there's no intrusion into my space.

I'd also splurge on a better internet package/provider if you need it. I have Spectrum and they have been great overall. I did try a step up from their basic package, but in the end it offered no benefit over their basic package, once VPN speeds were factored in, so I cancelled it, but if you find yourself getting disconnected frequently or people have trouble hearing you over weber or whatever, invest a little to make it better.

We've been with our ISP since 2003 and when we bought our first home in 2018 I upgraded to Gigabit speeds because I was upgrading my home network to Gig-E at the same time. So, when I started working from home I already had the top tier. Since we get cable TV with our ISP we get a reduced price because of bundling.

But once I actually started working from home I sprang for the unlimited data my ISP offers. That's another $50 a month, but the overage fees are insane. Considering I routinely average around 1.2TB of data a month this is a cost I am willing to bear.

One huge thing is an office chair. You're going to be sitting in it for 8+ hours a day, make sure that you get a good one. You don't need to spend $1,000 on a chair, but don't buy a $49 big box store special. I guess that leads into ergonomics. Make sure that your desk, chair, monitor, etc are all comfortable to use for extended periods of time. A small pain in your neck, wrist, back, etc will become a huge pain over time. Eliminate any pain point as soon as you feel it.

I did this in April last year. After working with my own Mickey Mouse setup, I got a large dining table from the local furniture store and a gaming chair. I don't game, but the chair was comfortable and there were no desks large enough (to be inexpensive enough) to support everything I've got going.

Outside of work this is MY space and I spend almost every waking hour sitting there.

Another thing for me is to have a separate room for an office. Obviously this isn't practical for everyone, but it's super helpful if you can swing it. You have a quiet place to work undistracted, it's easier on conference calls to be able to close the door, and you can leave your work behind at the end of the night. That's not as easy to do if your office is against the wall in the living room.

If you live with others, it's important to set expectations early that you are still working. Just because you're home doens't mean you can continuously help out. Obviously there is some flexibility there, but you need to be careful that you don't forget you're getting paid to work (unless you're freelancing or consulting or something like that).

I'm in the living room as I mentioned. It'd be nice to have an office, but see above (kids). That said, I'm used to tuning out distractions and focusing on what I'm doing. The TV is always on for background noise, etc. Doesn't really bother me except when I'm doing something of my own and am interrupted.

My kids are 14 and 18 so they can fend for themselves and they don't usually interrupt. My wife knows my schedule so keeps mainly to herself even when downstairs. That said, all three are only in the house during my work hours in the summer.

And the flip side of that, make sure that you keep work and life boundaries. (Another reason for the office with a door you can close). It's great to work from home, but it's also super easy to hop on and check email at all hours. Don't let it take over your personal life too. There are times when work is busy & it's ok to work a lot then, but if you're working all the time, all the time, then there is something wrong.

I was told that the Mac I was issued was mine to use as I wished. I take that to heart and I work the way I always have. Which is moments of work interrupted by small moments of forum use and internet browsing.

I clock in on time and out on time and that's all my employer gets (barring a real emergency). Once I switch back to my own Mac (on the KVM switch) I am DONE.

I've found that I'm still really engaged with my team at work, but it's much harder to have wider ranging contacts. You will pass people fro mother departments in the halls at work & get to know them & say Hi. But when you're remote, you tend to only interact with people you work with. Those spontaneous connections definitely get lost.

Be realistic with yourself. If you're not self-motivated, definitely put some barriers in place to allow you to work at a high level. Being in the office builds in some barriers automatically, but at home, it's much easier to slack if you aren't intentional about work. (move your computer out of the bedroom and away from the TV, put away distractions, etc)

A lot depends on the specifics of your situation, but if you are working remotely but close to others, try to schedule lunches or dinners occasionally. I have a group of co-workers that I go out to lunch with once a month, and some others that I meet with quarterly. That has really helped to keep me socialized. Freindships are (or can be) a big part of work, and are probably the one thing I miss about going into the office (not enough to go back in, but definitely noticeable).
For me, there's really no one to socialize with as I explained in my first post. I seem to have always been working (professionally) for small companies where what I do is an even smaller niche. In my current job I was only in the office (in the back room) for less than a year before the pandemic hit.

So, I just keep up with my own people.

This is probably a personal thing for me, and maybe not good advice for others, but I bought an extra phone to use for work. An iPod, old deactivated phone or an iPad would also work. I just find that there are times that I need to check my work calendar or email or whatever & it's much easier to turn on the phone, than to fire up the laptop. I also find it a lot easier to turn it back off. With my work computer, I end up getting sucked back into work, where I don't with the phone. But I don't keep my work data on my personal phone, or else it's always there, and it's hard to avoid work. You could be on a long weekend, hanging out with friend, then go to use your phone to order an Uber, then you see the red circle that you have a work email, and it takes you right back to work. Better to keep those separate (at least in my book).
Both my primary phone and my secondary phone have my work email and Google Chat. I find it easier on my nerves to know what may or may not be coming over a weekend and I only respond after hours if there is a need or it's a true emergency.

Emergencies are rare. I assemble the art and components for golf scorecards and yardage books. I don't deal with external customers (the reps are the buffer between me and them). So it works out for me better this way.
 
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eyoungren brings up some valid counterpoints, and it would be wise to read through them all & keep those in mind as well. My points were based on my experience working from home, which will obviously be different than others experiences, so take it with a grain of salt.
 
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eyoungren brings up some valid counterpoints, and it would be wise to read through them all & keep those in mind as well. My points were based on my experience working from home, which will obviously be different than others experiences, so take it with a grain of salt.
Actually, I was trying to support your arguments with my own. I agree with all your points.

I'm just really long-winded at it. :D
 
  • Looking back, what things do you wish you knew prior to being in this working arrangement?
  • What have you learned along the way that have made your remote working life better or improved your career?
  • What struggles do you currently have?
  • Any other comments
1. That I would like it as much as I do. I would have WFH sooner.

2. I’ve learned I’m more productive WFH than being in the office.

3. I struggle with nothing. It works wonderfully for me.

4. I would be less productive working in my office. I would have a hard start and end times and I would not log in before or after hours.
 
I liked working remotely. I had a desk set up anyway at home and a multi line phone. So the basics were there. I did have to learn several things:
don’t flush while taking a conference call in the bathroom.
While working from bed don’t spill coffee on my laptop.
put a pillow under your laptop so you don’t burn your legs. Etc

i loved it!
 
I've been working from home pretty much from 2015 on. In late 2019 I started a new job that was supposed to be on-site, then you-know-what started happening a few months later and my on-site job became a remote job (and has remained that way).

I used to have a pretty hard time separating home life from work life in the beginning, but that's gotten better. I've adjusted to the mentality of as long as my job is getting done, I don't need to be sitting at a computer for 8 hours a day to feel like "I've worked."

Biggest struggle is just feeling disconnected from people. I talk to/see people every day via Teams/Zoom but after nearly 3 years, there are still people I haven't met in person or even at all yet. One of the biggest struggles I see from other people is poor internet connections. If you're going to work from home, gotta make sure your internet connection is worth a damn.

Another thing I did to make life easier (and a big part of this may have to do with my needs being an IT Professional) was purchase some more powerful computer equipment than my employer provides :p I realize that's something I shouldn't have to do but, what I built myself is much more powerful and easier to use.
 
i have my own small-business, but I'm curious about career progression. Do you guys think that it will be the same when you are WFH vs being in the office? Bosses will likely to choose someone that they see/interact more often than a person working remotely...or you it will just the same?
 
Hey -

I am looking for feedback from those of you that work remote, or even hybrid work (decent split between office and home/elsewhere).

  • Looking back, what things do you wish you knew prior to being in this working arrangement?
  • What have you learned along the way that have made your remote working life better or improved your career?
  • What struggles do you currently have?
  • Any other comments
Looking more into this working arrangement and I am really interested to know folks experiences, issues, learnings etc. Also interested if there is anything from a hardware/ways of working point of view that is worth knowing.

Thanks.

I was working remote before all this foolishness started, so I've been doing it for a while.

I can't really say I've learned anything along the way. I had a pretty good setup from the beginning and I've just kept it that way.

I use an 8 year old Mac Mini with 2 32" monitors, Bose speakers, an old Logictec webcam....on a really nice desk in a dedicated room for my home office.

If I learned anything, it's to have two independent home internet services so that when service goes down, you still have service.
 
I work from home 100% so here is my take.

• I wish I had known: How long it would take to arrange a setup I was going to be comfortable with.

I started working from home with my employer issued monitors, keyboard, mouse and Mac. I still have the Mac but the monitors, keyboard and mouse are back at work. I use my own stuff now. My monitors are connected via a KVM switch, which was a purchase I made on my own. Plus all the other stuff (adapters, etc) needed to make my much larger monitors work with the company Mac.

The company Mac is always in clamshell mode and sits out of the way. I never use it except for work despite being told 'It's your Mac now.'

• What have I learned along the way: It's going to be better and more comfortable to use your own stuff (aside from the computer itself).

The less your work stuff takes over your home the better. I have my own workspace and all the stuff that came with the company Mac was either invading my space or forcing me to use a different space (which made my wife unhappy). Find a happy medium where there is a balance and the work equipment is not overpowering your own stuff.

• What struggles do I currently have: Being out of the loop. I've been told certain things at the various times it was necessary (for one reason or another) to go in to the office. So far not much of it has born fruit. I've had to make the decision that this doesn't matter. Whatever the company does the most important thing is happening and that is the deposit of my paycheck in my account on the expected dates.

• Other comments: The nature of what I do means I do not have to deal with Zoom or any other sort of video communication. Most comms are done either via email or Google chat. On occasion I may have to text or call but that's rare.

I don't have a problem showing up on time, I'm usually at the computer anyway. It's just a matter of hitting the KVM switch. Interruptions don't bother me, but those really only happen during the summer when the kids and the wife are not in school (my wife is a teacher). Fortunately my boss is flexible and as long as my eight hours are in and I keep the schedule I make we're good. I just have to alert the guy that schedules my workload.

I did have to learn that my own personal schedule is important. At the beginning I was just showing up at my desk in whatever clothes and condition I felt like. I'm still a professional so staying in that mindset is important. Take care of your hygiene and show up ready to work when you're scheduled to start. Keep the routine because if you don't you'll find yourself slacking on other stuff.

That isn't to say I don't show up in shorts and no shirt (it's hot in the summer and our central A/C isn't working) but I have had my shower, my coffee and run through my morning routine.

I am retired now (since 2016), but prior to that, I worked from home for about 14 years (the last 14 years of my career) as a mainframe programmer and tech support for a major IT consulting company. I cannot take issue with anything you say... but a few points of emphasis from my experience.

Set boundaries. Working from home means that you are ALWAYS at work. It's important to keep "work hours" and do all that you can to separate "work time" from "personal time". It's easy to allow the work stuff to creep into your personal time - especially when working on a project that proves to be particularly challenging. When your work time is over, STOP. I discovered early on that "just a few more minutes" easily turns in to hours...

Breaks and lunch are important parts of the day. The tendency is to work through those breaks. Don't do it. Respect yourself and your time.

I also set up separate work spaces for my work vs my personal computing space. Separate equipment is important, as well. My work provided funding for a workspace (desk, chair, printer/FAX, and telephone). They also provided a laptop. I dedicated a personal monitor to use as an extended desktop. No KVM. No sharing peripherals... work stuff for work, personal stuff for personal use.

I had a lateral file cabinet in which I stored work documents. At the end of the work day, I put things away. Out of sight, out of mind (more or less).

Our support team consisted of 14 employees, all working from home - in different parts of the country. Communication was difficult at first, but eventually we fell into a rhythm, and found our groove as a work team.

The biggest obstacle that I faced was the (grown) kids not recognizing that just because Dad was in the house did not mean that I was "home". I had to make them understand that I could not watch the grandkids during the day or run errands for them. It took some time to make that "click", but eventually, they did.

Now that I am retired, I do some graphics work for a local non-profit... 99% work from home, and I am not as militant about the separation of space and time. I use my personal Mac Studio and equipment for that work, and keep record of time actually spent working on their projects...
 
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A quick question, how many of you live in a house as opposed to an apartment?
4 BR house for myself and my wife... I have a BR dedicated to my office and prior to retirement, I had two separate work areas within that office... I have since redone the office to be my personal space ("man cave").
 
i have my own small-business, but I'm curious about career progression. Do you guys think that it will be the same when you are WFH vs being in the office? Bosses will likely to choose someone that they see/interact more often than a person working remotely...or you it will just the same?
When I was working in the office, there was an unwritten rule that you never left before the boss... that wasn't always possible, and many times impractical... but when working from home, it's not even a "thing". In the beginning of the WFH thing, we would send emails back and forth, at odd hours - sometimes later in the evening, and always copy the boss on those emails ... (most of my team members did it) - it created an illusion of working late. As I got closer and closer to retirement, frankly, I didn't care to do that any more. My boss knew me, and he knew my work ethic, so it wasn't necessary to try to impress him... I suspect that he saw that foolishness as attempts a mind games...
 
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I am retired now (since 2016), but prior to that, I worked from home for about 14 years (the last 14 years of my career) as a mainframe programmer and tech support for a major IT consulting company. I cannot take issue with anything you say... but a few points of emphasis from my experience.

Set boundaries. Working from home means that you are ALWAYS at work. It's important to keep "work hours" and do all that you can to separate "work time" from "personal time". It's easy to allow the work stuff to creep into your personal time - especially when working on a project that proves to be particularly challenging. When your work time is over, STOP. I discovered early on that "just a few more minutes" easily turns in to hours...

Breaks and lunch are important parts of the day. The tendency is to work through those breaks. Don't do it. Respect yourself and your time.

I also set up separate work spaces for my work vs my personal computing space. Separate equipment is important, as well. My work provided funding for a workspace (desk, chair, printer/FAX, and telephone). They also provided a laptop. I dedicated a personal monitor to use as an extended desktop. No KVM. No sharing peripherals... work stuff for work, personal stuff for personal use.

I had a lateral file cabinet in which I stored work documents. At the end of the work day, I put things away. Out of sight, out of mind (more or less).

Our support team consisted of 14 employees, all working from home - in different parts of the country. Communication was difficult at first, but eventually we fell into a rhythm, and found our groove as a work team.

The biggest obstacle that I faced was the (grown) kids not recognizing that just because Dad was in the house did not mean that I was "home". I had to make them understand that I could not watch the grandkids during the day or run errands for them. It took some time to make that "click", but eventually, they did.
Yeah, I've only been at it since 2020 and only because of the pandemic. I told them I wanted to stay working remote. They weren't happy about that but couldn't say no because the other two designers were already doing it 'permanently' too.

Very valid points you made, but my situation is slightly abnormal so to answer a few of them with that in mind.

• I'm Gen-X (born in 1970) so my boundaries are already known and established. I've had employers (and employees) try things but it's pretty clear what my work boundaries are. That said, sometimes the nature of what I do requires me to work. I worked for a weekly newspaper for 14.5 years. We sent our papers out to the printer every Tuesday and Wednesday. I would not have been long employed if I was clocking out at 5pm with a paper half-finished. It just had to be done. Eventually I had the process down so this was a rare thing - but you don't leave until the newspaper is put to bed.

• I am taking breaks (and lunches) multiple times a day. I'll do some work, get to a point, and then browse the internet for a while. Then get back to work. My lunch period start/end is hazy but I take it and I'm usually reading news articles while eating. Since I'm on the clock in many of those cases, I do not complain if I am interrupted for a task. If I was off the clock, that would be an entirely different matter.

• There was no funding from my company for a workspace. It's a small company and they never intended the pandemic to turn three graphic designers into permanent remote employees. Our company is less than 20 people in total. It wouldn't matter anyway as the only space I have is the space I already have for my stuff. At the start of this I had two 23" monitors provided. That's fine, but I don't have space for all my stuff plus two work monitors. I chose to use my own two 30" Cinema Displays. I'm comfortable with those and they are bigger than what work provided. But I use the computer they issued me - with all its faults. It has the apps and they can support that. That Mac sits in clamshell mode all day and I have a charging station sitting on top of it. It's about as out of the way as I can make it.

• Everything I work on is stored on the work server. It's all QuarkXPress, Photoshop and Illustrator documents. All the job related material is stored in a Filemaker database. There used to be some paper involved (scorecards, notes, etc) but with working remote, I get pictures now instead. I do use one of my own drives to store backups of the jobfiles I work on. That's to protect myself. QuarkXPress documents are somewhat prone to going corrupt and people have been known to overwrite documents (with no backup). This has saved me more than once now. We do have a server backup, but it's once every 24 hours and there can literally be multiple changes in a document each day. Every time I save a backup, it timestamps - so I have multiple backups.

• I do rely heavily on Google Chat because that's the app that the guy who controls the job schedule uses to communicate with me. I've never had to use Zoom. Email also tends to be used heavily. There's really no need to use video calls. What I do is pretty self-explanatory and only one designer at a time can be working on a job.

• Lastly - my son (the oldest) will be 19 in October. He's enrolled at ASU in their IT program. This semester he's been doing it all online from home, so he's mostly in his own room all day. Both he and his sister (14) have had computers since they were five or six. So, along with their phones and the basic environment they were raised in (computers in use from the time you get up to the time you go to bed), there is very little disturbance in our house except when someone has something to say or needs something. We talk, it's just most of the time everybody is doing their own thing. My daughter is also at school all day, and my wife is a teacher so she's at school too. Usually it's just me at home by myself. Oh, and it is WAAAAAY too early to be talking grandkids. :D
 
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4 BR house for myself and my wife... I have a BR dedicated to my office and prior to retirement, I had two separate work areas within that office... I have since redone the office to be my personal space ("man cave").
We have a 3-bedroom (two story) home. In 2003 when my son was born, my wife and I made a deal. Previously she had one room, I had one room and we both shared the master. With a kid, it meant someone had to give up a room. She gave up her space first. When my daughter was born in 2008 I gave up my space. I do have the garage, but it's unusable as a space during the summer. Phoenix summer heat can top 115º in August.

So the deal is that, when my son finally moves out, my wife gets his room. Because she gave her space up first. When my daughter moves out, I get her room. And all that stuff of mine in the garage (and the computers in the living room) go there.

My son has 2.5 years of college left and my daughter just started ninth grade. So, my wife is way closer to getting her space back then I am.
 
Yeah, I've only been at it since 2020 and only because of the pandemic. I told them I wanted to stay working remote. They weren't happy about that but couldn't say no because the other two designers were already doing it 'permanently' too.

Very valid points you made, but my situation is slightly abnormal so to answer a few of them with that in mind.

• I'm Gen-X (born in 1970) so my boundaries are already known and established. I've had employers (and employees) try things but it's pretty clear what my work boundaries are. That said, sometimes the nature of what I do requires me to work. I worked for a weekly newspaper for 14.5 years. We sent our papers out to the printer every Tuesday and Wednesday. I would not have been long employed if I was clocking out at 5pm with a paper half-finished. It just had to be done. Eventually I had the process down so this was a rare thing - but you don't leave until the newspaper is put to bed.

• I am taking breaks (and lunches) multiple times a day. I'll do some work, get to a point, and then browse the internet for a while. Then get back to work. My lunch period start/end is hazy but I take it and I'm usually reading news articles while eating. Since I'm on the clock in many of those cases, I do not complain if I am interrupted for a task. If I was off the clock, that would be an entirely different matter.
Agreed... each of us have to work out our own situation... and having hard deadlines definitely make each situation unique... as a programmer, there were often deadlines which required "working through the issues"... and off-hour software installs that required our presence (remote) at times... but it is important to respect yourself with breaks and "down time".
 
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