Replace MBP late 2011 logic board by mid 2012?

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  1. Cubytus, Nov 10, 2018
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    Cubytus macrumors 65816

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    Hi there,

    I have a late 2011 MBP (maxed out 2.8GHz i7, 16GiB) and found out the case will accept the mid-2012 logic board (2.9GHz i7). If I were to swap, I would get a faster CPU and GPU, USB 3.0, and I expect it to be more energy-efficient, and perhaps would run cooler. Oh, and it would take 10.14 Mojave as well :) Upgradeability and connectivity are must-haves.

    I tried different configurations on Apple's website, but a similar configuration (not even a more powerful one) would set me back at least $2500 before dongles, AppleCare and taxes, $500 more than what I paid for this one. And of course, no upgradeability / repairability, and possibly a less durable keyboard.

    Where would I find a 661-6589 logic board in good shape for a decent price?
    The ones I found on AliExpress (yes, they do have MBP logic board, surprisingly) and eBay currently go for well over $450, and I have to account for customs since these all come from outside Canada.
     
  2. Audit13 macrumors 601

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    I'm not sure where you are located but I see fully functional mid-2012 13" MBPs on Kijiji for $400 to $500.
     
  3. Airboy1466 macrumors 6502

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    what I don't understand is why not just buy a 2012 15inc i7 instead of going through the trouble and essentially building an entire machine. for the same price.
     
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  5. Cubytus, Nov 11, 2018
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    Cubytus thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Mostly i5 (base model), not a single i7 sighted so far (That's Montreal).

    Have you seen any?

    I wish I had bought the 15 inch when I could have. At the time, I just found that $2500 was a tad too expensive for a stock 15" MBP. Now one has to dig $3200 for a stock 15"

    Right, this logic board price makes little sense, as I expected parts to be cheaper than complete computers. I tend to avoid buying on Kijiji because of rampant scams there.
     
  6. Audit13 macrumors 601

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    Yes, I have seen some i7 but not many. The last base i7 model I saw had sold for $520.
     
  7. Cubytus thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Found a i7, Mid-2012 unit, but the guy asks for $750. Only i7, no upgrades.

    If I were to find one, what should I be testing before committing?
     
  8. Audit13 macrumors 601

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    I would test everything possible.

    I also recommend removing the button cover and closely looking at the circuit boards for any signs of damage, corrosion, or signs of tampering.
     
  9. StellarVixen macrumors 68000

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    Last time I checked, logic boards were just a little less expensive than used mid 2012 MBP in good condition.
     
  10. Cubytus thread starter macrumors 65816

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    So far, I intended to test an hypothetical unit by rebooting on an external FireWire 800 HDD, DVD burner, fan speed under load (Prime95), battery health, HDD or SSD health.

    Still, I don't tend to trust sellers too much because of the many scammers on Kijiji. Especially on high-ticket items.

    But is it realistic to remove the logic board altogether to have a close look for corrosion damage on the keyboard side, especially in a public place? For the same reason, I assumed that I can't test MiniDP port for lack of suitable peripheral.

    There's a lot of money involved, and basic caution calls for meeting in a public place for such transactions.
     
  11. Audit13 macrumors 601

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    Yes, it's unlikely the person would allow you to remove the logic board but you could always ask.

    You'll have to decide whether the seller is or isn't trustworthy.

    Problems arising from liquid exposure doesn't always appear right away and may take days or weeks to appear.
     
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    I did that with my black MacBook, 2008 to a 2009 logic board I got off eBay. Wasn't an exact swap but I made it fit!
     
  13. Macbookprodude macrumors regular

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    So, is there really a lot involved with taking out a 2011 board and placing a 2012 in there ?
     
  14. Cubytus thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Already gone. I guess that was too good to last. No regrets, though. I doubt the seller would have made it to Montréal.

    AFAIK it seems to be a drop-in replacement.
     
  15. Cubytus thread starter macrumors 65816

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    What about this one? The guy shows $300 if he takes back the old logic board, but $350 if I keep both. Sounds abnormally low given the current going price.

    The alternative being that one. Guy selling complete MBP 13" top stock specs, announced at $750. He didn't say it was negotiable, but knowing the 15" from the same era also sell for $750, I expect him to drop the price maybe $100.
     
  16. Stephen.R macrumors 65816

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    Keep in mind, there's more to the machine than just CPU clock speed, and the amount of memory. I would imagine that even a new Macbook Air will seem faster than a 7 year old dual-core MBP for most tasks.

    I recently went from a 2011 MBP17 (2.4GHz Quad i7, 16GB, 128GB SSD) to a literally base-model 2018 MBP15 (2.2GHz Hex i7, 16GB, 250GB SSD) and the difference is night and day. And no, not just because the new one is space grey :p
     
  17. Cubytus thread starter macrumors 65816

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    RAM is a must-have. There's no way I can keep 300+ tabs open and run virtual machines at the same time without at least 16GB. CPU clock speed isn't that relevant, however CPU benchmark are. I was quite shocked when I saw the 2017 MacBook didn't have a significantly better performance than the 2011 dual-core i7. Of course it's much cooler running, but that's about it. And less than 500GB SSD is just too impractical for my typical usage. And that's not counting the required dongles and cables: Gigabit Ethernet, regular USB, USB hub, VGA, Thunderbolt, new cables for iPhones… Not counting the cost of replacing those FireWire external drives enclosures.
     
  18. Cubytus thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Update: finally found a suitable replacement MBP mid-2012 i7 for $580. No regrets as the current going price is still above $590 (Kijiji alert). Doesn't run cooler, but quieter.

    Now, late-2011 MBP i7 for sale :)
     
  19. duervo, May 31, 2019
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    $2500??? Holy crap. I only paid ~$1800 CAD for my mid2012 15" Unibody MacBook Pro (purchased middle of November, 2012. Value of CAD vs USD was about par at the time.) I just got the base model that the store had ... i7 2.3GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, and the nVidia GeForce 650M 512MB. Even with the after-market upgrades of a 500GB SSD, and 16GB RAM, I'm still under that $2500, by several hundred. Are you sure you're not remembering the Retina 15" prices? Those were significantly more than the Unibody ones back then.
     

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