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TXCraig

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So I got up on launch day and ordered a watch at 2:04 AM CT and just received my SS link band watch on Wednesday. I had trouble with the watch not pairing properly and called support.

They had me unpair my watch, and reset the watch... it would still not complete the pairing process.

They had me then reset the network settings on my iPhone 6 plus and the watch paired. I thought my issues were gone

Day 1 - my watch would be attached to my phone but the watch app would tell me its not connected...even though the watch status showed connected to my phone. The battery drained from 100% to 0 in less then 4 hours.

Day 2 - still having the same issues any my fully charged watched ran for 3 hours before it was almost out of battery.

I called support again - they said it sounds like I got a bad watch and I need to replace it. I told them I would like to get a apt at the store, have them look at it, and if it's bad - replace it. They told me the APPLE STORES have no replacement stock. (this is the craziest thing I have ever heard)

They told me if I wanted to return the watch to apple.com I could do so and then order another watch. I told them "you mean I would have to wait months for the replacement"? they said yes.

I told them that was not going to work so they told me i then would have to PURCHASE applecare plus on my 1 day old watch and they would send out and express replacement. I was shocked this was needed to get a watch replaced by apple that cost me a thousand bucks and I just paid 80 more. After PAYING for AppleCare I found out their "express" watch replacement was going to take 3 days or so to ship and they were going to put a $600 hold on my credit card (now we are up to $1,680 for a watch that does not work) and it would stay until I returned the broken watch.

So am I crazy for thinking Apple has dropped the ball on customer service that we all know and love from Apple? I'm pissed!
 
Making you pay for Apple care to get a replacement under the normal 1 year warranty sounds odd at best, and illegal at worst. I'd be pissed too.
 
So I got up on launch day and ordered a watch at 2:04 AM CT and just received my SS link band watch on Wednesday. I had trouble with the watch not pairing properly and called support.

They had me unpair my watch, and reset the watch... it would still not complete the pairing process.

They had me then reset the network settings on my iPhone 6 plus and the watch paired. I thought my issues were gone

Day 1 - my watch would be attached to my phone but the watch app would tell me its not connected...even though the watch status showed connected to my phone. The battery drained from 100% to 0 in less then 4 hours.

Day 2 - still having the same issues any my fully charged watched ran for 3 hours before it was almost out of battery.

I called support again - they said it sounds like I got a bad watch and I need to replace it. I told them I would like to get a apt at the store, have them look at it, and if it's bad - replace it. They told me the APPLE STORES have no replacement stock. (this is the craziest thing I have ever heard)

They told me if I wanted to return the watch to apple.com I could do so and then order another watch. I told them "you mean I would have to wait months for the replacement"? they said yes.

I told them that was not going to work so they told me i then would have to PURCHASE applecare plus on my 1 day old watch and they would send out and express replacement. I was shocked this was needed to get a watch replaced by apple that cost me a thousand bucks and I just paid 80 more. After PAYING for AppleCare I found out their "express" watch replacement was going to take 3 days or so to ship and they were going to put a $600 hold on my credit card (now we are up to $1,680 for a watch that does not work) and it would stay until I returned the broken watch.

So am I crazy for thinking Apple has dropped the ball on customer service that we all know and love from Apple? I'm pissed!

That situation sucks. But either apple has gone off the deep end, or you're embellishing when you say your replacement was going to cost you a thousand bucks.

Everything else is pretty standard. AppleCare gets priority. Any company would put a hold on your card for a product this expensive to make sure you're good for it.
 
I will say that I think something was miscommunicated. You only need AppleCare+ if you want to setup an express replacement. Otherwise, you should have been able to ship your watch back and then have them send you a new one. Granted, this might take weeks, but it's better than months.

Also, out of warranty replacement on stainless steel is $329.

Edit: here's the page that explains it all. https://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=servicefaq&geo=United_States&product=watch
 
So I got up on launch day and ordered a watch at 2:04 AM CT and just received my SS link band watch on Wednesday. I had trouble with the watch not pairing properly and called support.

They had me unpair my watch, and reset the watch... it would still not complete the pairing process.

They had me then reset the network settings on my iPhone 6 plus and the watch paired. I thought my issues were gone

Day 1 - my watch would be attached to my phone but the watch app would tell me its not connected...even though the watch status showed connected to my phone. The battery drained from 100% to 0 in less then 4 hours.

Day 2 - still having the same issues any my fully charged watched ran for 3 hours before it was almost out of battery.

I called support again - they said it sounds like I got a bad watch and I need to replace it. I told them I would like to get a apt at the store, have them look at it, and if it's bad - replace it. They told me the APPLE STORES have no replacement stock. (this is the craziest thing I have ever heard)

They told me if I wanted to return the watch to apple.com I could do so and then order another watch. I told them "you mean I would have to wait months for the replacement"? they said yes.

I told them that was not going to work so they told me i then would have to PURCHASE applecare plus on my 1 day old watch and they would send out and express replacement. I was shocked this was needed to get a watch replaced by apple that cost me a thousand bucks and I just paid 80 more. After PAYING for AppleCare I found out their "express" watch replacement was going to take 3 days or so to ship and they were going to put a $600 hold on my credit card (now we are up to $1,680 for a watch that does not work) and it would stay until I returned the broken watch.

So am I crazy for thinking Apple has dropped the ball on customer service that we all know and love from Apple? I'm pissed!


Yes thats messed up I would be pissed but I think getting apple care for the apple watch is the best choice anybody can make
 
Before You Send It Back

So I got up on launch day and ordered a watch at 2:04 AM CT and just received my SS link band watch on Wednesday. I had trouble with the watch not pairing properly and called support.

They had me unpair my watch, and reset the watch... it would still not complete the pairing process.

They had me then reset the network settings on my iPhone 6 plus and the watch paired. I thought my issues were gone

Day 1 - my watch would be attached to my phone but the watch app would tell me its not connected...even though the watch status showed connected to my phone. The battery drained from 100% to 0 in less then 4 hours.

Day 2 - still having the same issues any my fully charged watched ran for 3 hours before it was almost out of battery.

I called support again - they said it sounds like I got a bad watch and I need to replace it. I told them I would like to get a apt at the store, have them look at it, and if it's bad - replace it. They told me the APPLE STORES have no replacement stock. (this is the craziest thing I have ever heard)

They told me if I wanted to return the watch to apple.com I could do so and then order another watch. I told them "you mean I would have to wait months for the replacement"? they said yes.

I told them that was not going to work so they told me i then would have to PURCHASE applecare plus on my 1 day old watch and they would send out and express replacement. I was shocked this was needed to get a watch replaced by apple that cost me a thousand bucks and I just paid 80 more. After PAYING for AppleCare I found out their "express" watch replacement was going to take 3 days or so to ship and they were going to put a $600 hold on my credit card (now we are up to $1,680 for a watch that does not work) and it would stay until I returned the broken watch.

So am I crazy for thinking Apple has dropped the ball on customer service that we all know and love from Apple? I'm pissed!

Before you send it back, back up your phone to your preferred method (iCloud or iTunes) Then reset your phone and setup as a new iPhone. Then make sure if it is a watch problem, and not your phone. See if it works like this before you spend days without your device, when it could be some rogue software on your phone.;)
 
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I will say that I think something was miscommunicated. You only need AppleCare+ if you want to setup an express replacement. Otherwise, you should have been able to ship your watch back and then have them send you a new one. Granted, this might take weeks, but it's better than months.

Also, out of warranty replacement on stainless steel is $329.

Edit: here's the page that explains it all. https://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=servicefaq&geo=United_States&product=watch

This actually sums up what happened perfectly. They were willing to replace your watch, but you would have to wait weeks. As an AC+ "owner" they would offer you express replacement. You basically paid a premium to get it earlier. It sounds dirty, but actually is the difference between having ac+ and not having it.
 
I will say that I think something was miscommunicated. You only need AppleCare+ if you want to setup an express replacement. Otherwise, you should have been able to ship your watch back and then have them send you a new one. Granted, this might take weeks, but it's better than months.

Also, out of warranty replacement on stainless steel is $329.

Edit: here's the page that explains it all. https://support.apple.com/kb/index?page=servicefaq&geo=United_States&product=watch
I went up 5 levels... The repair process I was told is the process. I'd be happy to send you a clip of the email from my Amex account showing I was charged 610 until the broken watch is replaced. The SS is 550 plus tax. That is just the watch... The replacement ships with no band and I have to swap them.

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That situation sucks. But either apple has gone off the deep end, or you're embellishing when you say your replacement was going to cost you a thousand bucks.

Everything else is pretty standard. AppleCare gets priority. Any company would put a hold on your card for a product this expensive to make sure you're good for it.

The watch I purchased was a thousand bucks. 999 plus tax
 
Honestly this is unacceptable. They should set aside a small portion of stock so that you don't have to wait weeks to get another one. Having to wait that much longer or buy AppleCare+ is absurd.

Try emailing Tim Cook and see what you get back.
 
The replacement policy is a joke. My Mom's watch arrived defective. I've been assigned a senior advisor (probably in title only), I do not get timely calls back, nor have I gotten many detailed answers. Now the advisor is out for two days so I guess I will wait till next week.

It's bad enough we paid $750 with taxes and now Apple expects me to ship it back and wait some more. They haven't even given a timeframe for when the replacement might ship.

This whole launch has been a mess, but there should be available stock for replacements.
 
The replacement policy is a joke. My Mom's watch arrived defective. I've been assigned a senior advisor (probably in title only), I do not get timely calls back, nor have I gotten many detailed answers. Now the advisor is out for two days so I guess I will wait till next week.

It's bad enough we paid $750 with taxes and now Apple expects me to ship it back and wait some more. They haven't even given a timeframe for when the replacement might ship.

This whole launch has been a mess, but there should be available stock for replacements.

Interesting, I'm in exactly the same situation even down to the awol senior advisor. The only difference is I actually sent them my watch and am still waiting 10 days later.

Oh and I have applecare+ and it makes absolutely no difference whats so ever.
 
I say no to extended warranties most of the time. I Said yes this time. I've read numerous posts where this is exactly what happened. You get the watch replaced quicker with Apple care. this is because of the shortage. Things could be different come July.

But s/s and sapphire I understand not getting it. But I'm skeptical that battery will last two years.
 
Interesting, I'm in exactly the same situation even down to the awol senior advisor. The only difference is I actually sent them my watch and am still waiting 10 days later.

Oh and I have applecare+ and it makes absolutely no difference whats so ever.

I didn't make that mistake. I am waiting on the call back before I send it in. I want to know when the replacement will ship. Advisor was in last two days. I called twice and no return calls. Now he's out of the office two days.

Great job Apple.
 
So I got up on launch day and ordered a watch at 2:04 AM CT and just received my SS link band watch on Wednesday. I had trouble with the watch not pairing properly and called support.

They had me unpair my watch, and reset the watch... it would still not complete the pairing process.

They had me then reset the network settings on my iPhone 6 plus and the watch paired. I thought my issues were gone

Day 1 - my watch would be attached to my phone but the watch app would tell me its not connected...even though the watch status showed connected to my phone. The battery drained from 100% to 0 in less then 4 hours.

Day 2 - still having the same issues any my fully charged watched ran for 3 hours before it was almost out of battery.

I called support again - they said it sounds like I got a bad watch and I need to replace it. I told them I would like to get a apt at the store, have them look at it, and if it's bad - replace it. They told me the APPLE STORES have no replacement stock. (this is the craziest thing I have ever heard)

They told me if I wanted to return the watch to apple.com I could do so and then order another watch. I told them "you mean I would have to wait months for the replacement"? they said yes.

I told them that was not going to work so they told me i then would have to PURCHASE applecare plus on my 1 day old watch and they would send out and express replacement. I was shocked this was needed to get a watch replaced by apple that cost me a thousand bucks and I just paid 80 more. After PAYING for AppleCare I found out their "express" watch replacement was going to take 3 days or so to ship and they were going to put a $600 hold on my credit card (now we are up to $1,680 for a watch that does not work) and it would stay until I returned the broken watch.

So am I crazy for thinking Apple has dropped the ball on customer service that we all know and love from Apple? I'm pissed!


Just a heads up- i had to do this with my iphone. You can CANCEL apple care within 30 days for a FULL refund. Seriously.
 
I didn't make that mistake. I am waiting on the call back before I send it in. I want to know when the replacement will ship. Advisor was in last two days. I called twice and no return calls. Now he's out of the office two days.

Great job Apple.

I agree I made the mistake of sending my watch in. The advisor in question did tell me that the problem would be resolved in 2-4 days and I believed him. 10 days later I'm sitting around wondering what the time is ;)

Yep, my advisor never returns my calls either and doesn't work Thursday's and Friday's. I left 3 messages for him last week and not one was returned. I'm sick of listening to his voicemail message TBH. I think we either have the same advisor or this is how Apple advisors are trained to behave.
 
Just a heads up- i had to do this with my iphone. You can CANCEL apple care within 30 days for a FULL refund. Seriously.
Thanks! For the info. Can't you get your iPhone replaced in the Store? I always have been able to be taken care of. Not in this case.
 
Thanks! For the info. Can't you get your iPhone replaced in the Store? I always have been able to be taken care of. Not in this case.

Hi,

In my memory you have never been able to get a replacement of a product in an Apple Store until a certain amount of time after release.

B
 
So I got up on launch day and ordered a watch at 2:04 AM CT and just received my SS link band watch on Wednesday. I had trouble with the watch not pairing properly and called support.

They had me unpair my watch, and reset the watch... it would still not complete the pairing process.

They had me then reset the network settings on my iPhone 6 plus and the watch paired. I thought my issues were gone

Day 1 - my watch would be attached to my phone but the watch app would tell me its not connected...even though the watch status showed connected to my phone. The battery drained from 100% to 0 in less then 4 hours.

Day 2 - still having the same issues any my fully charged watched ran for 3 hours before it was almost out of battery.

I called support again - they said it sounds like I got a bad watch and I need to replace it. I told them I would like to get a apt at the store, have them look at it, and if it's bad - replace it. They told me the APPLE STORES have no replacement stock. (this is the craziest thing I have ever heard)

They told me if I wanted to return the watch to apple.com I could do so and then order another watch. I told them "you mean I would have to wait months for the replacement"? they said yes.

I told them that was not going to work so they told me i then would have to PURCHASE applecare plus on my 1 day old watch and they would send out and express replacement. I was shocked this was needed to get a watch replaced by apple that cost me a thousand bucks and I just paid 80 more. After PAYING for AppleCare I found out their "express" watch replacement was going to take 3 days or so to ship and they were going to put a $600 hold on my credit card (now we are up to $1,680 for a watch that does not work) and it would stay until I returned the broken watch.

So am I crazy for thinking Apple has dropped the ball on customer service that we all know and love from Apple? I'm pissed!

Yeah life is tough for some. Considering the shortage of watches no, it's not surprising they don't have replacement watches yet.

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Making you pay for Apple care to get a replacement under the normal 1 year warranty sounds odd at best, and illegal at worst. I'd be pissed too.

No one made him do anything.... HE chose that option to get a watch sent out to him.... HUGE difference that you seemed to have missed.

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Honestly this is unacceptable. They should set aside a small portion of stock so that you don't have to wait weeks to get another one. Having to wait that much longer or buy AppleCare+ is absurd.

Try emailing Tim Cook and see what you get back.

Yeah it sure is a hard knock life for some.

Remember while you guys are complaining about replacement watches thousands don't have a watch at all.
 
I'd be happy to send you a clip of the email from my Amex account showing I was charged 610 until the broken watch is replaced.
If you check the AMEX website, it should show in the Pending Transactions area, and never actually move down to the Posted Transactions area (assuming you return your old watch within the 10 day window).

They basically just made sure you had $610 of available credit before they sent out the watch.

At least that's how it's always worked with my Apple Express Replacements. Never saw any of them actually come through as an actual charge.

If you did the regular AppleCare warranty process (where you ship them your old product first), they wouldn't do this.
 
Thanks! For the info. Can't you get your iPhone replaced in the Store? I always have been able to be taken care of. Not in this case.

Yes, but i usually prefer the express replacement route to save the trip (45 minutes to the nearest apple store). But seriously, speak to the rep about the cancelation policy- i believe its 30 days and it should allow you to do your express replacement for free and then just cancel apple care if you wish! I found this out because i sell my iphone every year and you can actually call anytime and cancel apple care, however after a month you get less and less money back. I get $50-$55 back every year
 
Yes, but i usually prefer the express replacement route to save the trip (45 minutes to the nearest apple store). But seriously, speak to the rep about the cancelation policy- i believe its 30 days and it should allow you to do your express replacement for free and then just cancel apple care if you wish! I found this out because i sell my iphone every year and you can actually call anytime and cancel apple care, however after a month you get less and less money back. I get $50-$55 back every year

I'm pretty sure in the fine print that it says you can cancel within 30 days as long as you haven't utilized the AppleCare, so you may not be able to cancel.

EDIT: From the terms for AppleCare for Apple Watch, so I'd assume you won't be able to cancel since the service provided would exceed the cost of the Apple Care.

Unless local law provides otherwise, if you cancel within thirty (30) days of your Plan’s purchase, or receipt of this Plan, whichever occurs later, you will receive a full refund less the value of any service provided under the Plan.
 
Making you pay for Apple care to get a replacement under the normal 1 year warranty sounds odd at best, and illegal at worst. I'd be pissed too.

To be clear:
If I read the OP post correctly... Apple did NOT say any such thing.
They merely said that's the only way to get an EXPRESS replacement.
 
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