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So abandoning the principles of privacy that make it stand out to chase scammy AI hype. Thats a no for me. Craig Federighi is absolute right about vetoing Google and whoever is chasing this AI train should look at the clown show that is Microslop.
 
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I wouldn't be concerned at all if Gemini is running on Apple servers, with assistance from Google just to setup the infrastructure. If Google are running the show, or if the infrastructure is actually Google owned or maintained, then I have a very big problem with that because I have zero trust in Google.

Would I leave Apple? Not out of hand, no. But I would take every step possible to make sure that none of my data is going in that direction which would mean not using the new Siri services.

If it turns out that I don't have an option, and Apple forces me to start sending my data over to Google, data that I don't want Google to have, then yes, I would start considering my options. It might be painful, but I think it would be important to at least consider it.
If that is painful for you, then I have some very, very painful news…
Apple has been using Google servers to store people‘s iCloud data since at least 2018, likely earlier. They also used and or are still using Microsoft and Amazon cloud servers to power iCloud.
And there is nothing sneaky or unknown about this, Apple confirmed it almost a decade ago themselves.
Write from Apple‘s own mouth in 2018, they use Google servers to store iCloud data.
 
Can apple just drop Siri and put Gemini on the iPhone natively at this point? I use the gemini app all the time, who cares at this point about privacy? every company already knows everything about everyone lol
 
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Because some people (myself included) prefer iOS to Android.
Only because Apple arbitrarily restricts some things such and imessage and FaceTime while also choosing not to implement things like full RCS 3.0 which brings encryption and in-line replies for texts

People only stick with ios due to ecosystem lock in. Majority of things like notifications for instance are just better on Android
 
Wonder what Google's terms will be.

$50-$100 billion/year for the service? Chrome bundled with all devices (and can't be removed)?
 
I hate how Google has groped and grabbed their way into the iPhone.

It’s disgusting.
What do you mean? Google has always been involved with the iPhone.
The first iPhone came with Google Maps, Google’s YouTube and Gmail support built-in through collaboration with Google. Google CEO even presented at the original iPhone event.
Plus there is that almost 2 decades old contract between Apple and Google to have Google as the default search provider within Safari, that dates back to the original iPhone as well.
Plus Apple has used Google servers to store iCloud data.
Not sure why people are acting like this is some type of new thing.
Apple works with Google, Apple works with Samsung, LG, Microsoft…
 
Only because Apple arbitrarily restricts some things such and imessage and FaceTime while also choosing not to implement things like full RCS 3.0 which brings encryption and in-line replies for texts

People only stick with ios due to ecosystem lock in. Majority of things like notifications for instance are just better on Android
I stick with iOS and I promise you, iMessage and FaceTime is not the reason why.
never understood why it is so hard for some people to admit that Apple just, makes good products? And has an operating system that people enjoy using?
Like, yes, of course there is ecosystem goodies that exist when you have several Apple devices, but, not even every Apple user does. Some people just prefer Apple devices because they prefer them, no deeper reason than that.
I even know people who have android phones and Windows PCs… But have an iPad. Because they prefer it, and they like it.
 
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Apple already have connectors to other AI companies for Siri. I have my OpenAI account enabled for Siri, and if I ask What's the population of Bulawayo? I get a response back from ChatGPT through Siri. Works well.

I imagine their Gemini integration will just be tighter and more transparent. Google just make the car, Apple will be driving it.
I think in this case it's the opposite: Apple just makes the car (the server), Google (Gemini) is driving it. Apple just wants to save a few pennies by not renting the cloud resources from Google.
 
built for ... cloud based AI? What about all the marketing for AI on the phone? Is that even true?
It's marketing. Marketing is never true. Also, Apple was harping about the on-the phone AI for two reasons:
- they did not know how to make it in cloud (they still don't)
- "privacy" remains the only marketing fluff that is still working for them.
 
Only because Apple arbitrarily restricts some things such and imessage and FaceTime while also choosing not to implement things like full RCS 3.0 which brings encryption and in-line replies for texts

People only stick with ios due to ecosystem lock in. Majority of things like notifications for instance are just better on Android
Some bold claims without a shred of proof.
 
Wow. Cook really hyped how everything from your iPhone to your Mac to the cloud servers would be running the same fundamental hardware (chip architecture).

And now they just let all the cloud property languish. Just seems like such a lost vision….
 
Very predictable to see complete lack of understanding of how SaaS works. Do people saying that this is the proof that Apple does not care about privacy know that today, your iCloud backup might already be stored in Google cloud?

There are absolutely ways where one company can store their customer data in another company's data center and that hosting company does not automatically "get access to user private information".

This is a solved problem.
Hope you're right but Google and Facebook have shown over and over that they suck data when they're not supposed to. My first thought was "what could go wrong?" I trust Apple to ensure privacy while on Google's servers but do not trust Google at all.
 
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If that is painful for you, then I have some very, very painful news…
Apple has been using Google servers to store people‘s iCloud data since at least 2018, likely earlier. They also used and or are still using Microsoft and Amazon cloud servers to power iCloud.
And there is nothing sneaky or unknown about this, Apple confirmed it almost a decade ago themselves.
Write from Apple‘s own mouth in 2018, they use Google servers to store iCloud data.
Which is exactly why I don't use Apple's iCould services.
 
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Gemini is just enterprise software. Apple installing Google Gemini on their cloud is the same as your company installing Microsoft Exchange on their internal servers. Doesn't mean all the data is going to Google.
The central theme is Apple "Private Cloud Compute" data centers using Apple chips are not a good solution, hence Apple will be using Gemini at "Google's cloud infrastructure."

Also, this MacRumors article links to another source article titled. "Apple Discusses Google Hosting New Siri as Need for Cloud Help Grows."
 
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