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Report: Apple in Talks with Tencent, ByteDance for Chinese iPhone AI

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Apple is reportedly negotiating with China's ByteDance and Tencent to bring their artificial intelligence models to iPhones sold in China, as the company adapts its AI strategy for the Chinese market.

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Apple began integrating OpenAI's ChatGPT into its devices globally earlier this month with the release of iOS 18.2, iPadOS 18.2, and macOS Sequoia 15.2, but ChatGPT is not accessible in China due to regulatory restrictions. Chinese law requires government approval before companies can release generative AI services to the public.

Both ByteDance and Tencent have developed their own AI models - Doubao and Hunyuan respectively - which could potentially be integrated into Chinese iPhones if the talks prove successful. However, negotiations are said to be still in early stages, according to sources cited by Reuters. Apple is reported to have previously held talks with Baidu about similar AI integration.

Any partnership could be particularly significant as Apple faces increasing competition in China's smartphone market. The company briefly dropped out of China's top five smartphone vendors in the second quarter of 2023 before recovering in the third quarter, though its sales still declined 0.3% year-over-year.
Meanwhile, Huawei has gained momentum in the Chinese market, with sales surging 42% in the third quarter. The company's recent Mate 70 series features AI capabilities powered by its own home-grown large language model.

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No, Apple, and others, need to quit bootlicking these people. Either China accepts the product and its features as is. Or, they need to get lost. The world is already moving on from China and pulling businesses, factories, etc out by the day. Tim Cook really needs to toughen up a bit and tell them like it is. I understand they have…’unique’ requirements, but nonetheless, Apple Intelligence, ChatGPT, etc would be better options instead of bending over backwards just to please an entity who wouldn’t return the favor.

A surge of 42% for Huawei really isn’t that impressive when it comes down to it. A Chinese company that builds a Chinese phone and is riding the waves of a pro-Chinese product consumer market push by the government…
 
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anyone have any (actual) information about what content Chinese AI us allowed to have and what not?

genuinely curious where the Chinese state draws the line on, well, intelligence
 
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delsoul said:
No, Apple, and others, need to quit bootlicking these people. Either China accepts the product and its features as is. Or, they need to get lost. The world is already moving on from China and pulling businesses, factories, etc out by the day. Tim Cook really needs to toughen up a bit and tell them like it is. I understand they have…’unique’ requirements, but nonetheless, Apple Intelligence, ChatGPT, etc would be better options instead of bending over backwards just to please an entity who wouldn’t return the favor.

A surge of 42% for Huawei really isn’t that impressive when it comes down to it. A Chinese company that builds a Chinese phone and is riding the waves of a pro-Chinese product consumer market push by the government…
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Cook has a weird love for China, I'm assuming because of the supply-chain abilities that he is in awe of but don't really know; it's definitely a thing, though. As long as he is the CEO, Apple will bend over backwards for China, even to the detriment and dismay of other markets, including the US.
 
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That's certainly a big motivation.

But in time Apple will also be kicked out. They are just being useful idiots while local manufacturers develop themselves. Like the Western automakers.
 
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Cook has a weird love for China, I'm assuming because of the supply-chain abilities that he is in awe of but don't really know; it's definitely a thing, though. As long as he is the CEO, Apple will bend over backwards for China, even to the detriment and dismay of other markets, including the US.
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Pretty much started with Steve. This was one of the Steve things that Tim carried over.
 
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Cook has a weird love for China, I'm assuming because of the supply-chain abilities that he is in awe of but don't really know; it's definitely a thing, though. As long as he is the CEO, Apple will bend over backwards for China, even to the detriment and dismay of other markets, including the US.
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Cook has only one focus: generating as much money as possible. The words private, environmental friendly, safe only come to mind for upscaling the sales.
 
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Cook has only one focus: generating as much money as possible. The words private, environmental friendly, safe only come to mind for upscaling the sales.
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True, but I think he has an affinity for China that extends past money. I'd bet that he would fully stay in the Chinese market even if they were actively losing money by doing so.
 
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Will not be long before it is available in China. Definitely expecting an announcement regarding Apple Intelligence for the Chinese market atleast by WWDC.
 
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delsoul said:
No, Apple, and others, need to quit bootlicking these people. Either China accepts the product and its features as is. Or, they need to get lost. The world is already moving on from China and pulling businesses, factories, etc out by the day. Tim Cook really needs to toughen up a bit and tell them like it is. I understand they have…’unique’ requirements, but nonetheless, Apple Intelligence, ChatGPT, etc would be better options instead of bending over backwards just to please an entity who wouldn’t return the favor.

A surge of 42% for Huawei really isn’t that impressive when it comes down to it. A Chinese company that builds a Chinese phone and is riding the waves of a pro-Chinese product consumer market push by the government…
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LOL! Yeah, Apple will surely leave its biggest Asian market. And definitely they will leave the EU as well. And Brazil. And Indonesia. Actually every time a county wants something from Apple they should just pull out of that market. LOL! Tell me what business school did you attend?
 
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Apple is reportedly negotiating with China's ByteDance and Tencent to bring their artificial intelligence models to iPhones sold in China, as the company adapts its AI strategy for the Chinese market.

iOS-18.2-ChatGPT-Feature-3-1.jpg

Apple began integrating OpenAI's ChatGPT into its devices globally earlier this month with the release of iOS 18.2, iPadOS 18.2, and macOS Sequoia 15.2, but ChatGPT is not accessible in China due to regulatory restrictions. Chinese law requires government approval before companies can release generative AI services to the public.

Both ByteDance and Tencent have developed their own AI models - Doubao and Hunyuan respectively - which could potentially be integrated into Chinese iPhones if the talks prove successful. However, negotiations are said to be still in early stages, according to sources cited by Reuters. Apple is reported to have previously held talks with Baidu about similar AI integration.

Any partnership could be particularly significant as Apple faces increasing competition in China's smartphone market. The company briefly dropped out of China's top five smartphone vendors in the second quarter of 2023 before recovering in the third quarter, though its sales still declined 0.3% year-over-year.
Meanwhile, Huawei has gained momentum in the Chinese market, with sales surging 42% in the third quarter. The company's recent Mate 70 series features AI capabilities powered by its own home-grown large language model.

Article Link: Report: Apple in Talks with Tencent, ByteDance for Chinese iPhone AI
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Oh good, let the CCP steal that as well, but then …money, money, money, money…….
 
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