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Report Claims 12.9-Inch iPad May Adopt Integrated iOS/OS X Operating System

Um, I'll believe integrated OSX and iOS when I see it, then again, I really hope they do not do this.

Apple, please do not release software until it's ready, pretty please?
 
zedsdead said:
However, let's not forget Apple skipped Final Cut Pro 8/9 and went straight to X also.
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Yes. As funny as it sounds, I believe they did it to match the names. Apple is giving much attention to such things (for better or worst).

zedsdead said:
Apples iPad problems are not about its lack of OSX. The iPad needs better parity between files and apps on the Mac and iPad. iWork is STILL is not fully featured between devices.
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Well, iPad is a very successful tablet, so I doubt Apple's having any complaints concerning this product. Indeed, I also don't believe they would make such move as creating an OSX-running iPad as this would create fragmentation (and they hate it) and it would cannibalize part of the Macbook Air sales.

On the other hand, the release of iPhone 6 Plus might also cannibalize some of the iPad sales, so they have to differentiate iPad a bit. Oh well, I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
J B V said:
I think they waited so long with updating the mac mini because they plan to have it work with the iPad Pro: you have your mac mini at home, when you get home with your iPad Pro and are close it works as the screen for the mac mini and "runs" (displays actualy) OSX , when you leave and take your iPad Pro with you it runs iOS.
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You can do that now with VNC on iPad 🙂
 
yjchua95 said:
MacBook Air? You mean an iPad with retina display right?
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They probably switched out that tired old image at the last moment. Macrumors needs an art department like iwatchstuff.com has, so we get beauties like this from a recent story:

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mad3inch1na said:
Skeptical. Federighi and Schiller had an interview earlier this year where they said that OS X and iOS were distinct systems, and although they have some similar elements, they would not be combined. I can't imagine Apple flipping course within the same year. Maybe a possibility a few years from now, but they would have been designing this new iPad at the time of the interview. It just doesn't make sense.

http://www.macworld.com/article/209...he-mac-at-30-the-mac-keeps-going-forever.html

Matt
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I can hear the possibility being left between the lines. "The right OS at the right time." Instead of forcing one or the other or creating a mashup, they could make them interact more. Whenever you doc it you can invoke OSX and switch to iOS in handheld mode. Apps like pages or word that work on both can have a single universal app that includes both and continuity ensures work on one continues seamlessly on the other. ICloud Drive and the abilty to share files between devices makes this more plausible. Many times when apple says no, they are saying not until we can do it in a way that makes sense and adds value instead of complexity.
 
Drifting off topic, but I always wished my iPod did this. A 512 gig hd with OS X installed on it could turn any Mac into my Mac. You could do something similar with an iPad i guess.
 
I see it much more likely that the 12" iPad Pro will just utilize its screen real estate better than the smaller iPads and will be able to have apps in windows that you can interact with with a new surface style keyboard case. The apps looking similar on OS X and iOS will make the iPad feel more like a macbook replacement. It will also cost as much as a macbook so Apple isn't really hurting themselves in any way.
 
Digitimes Strikes Again

There's almost 0% chance of this being true, and not just because the source is Digitimes.

What is likely is a larger iPad Pro, with additional features and functionality like multi-tasking, side-by-side apps, extra RAM, more touch sensitivity for artists, maybe higher resolution screen, innovative new keyboard cover, and a few extra bits and bobs along those lines. But it will run iOS. Apple has been pretty clear about this - the iPad will not run a desktop operating system (and the Mac will not run iOS).
 
lewisdorigo said:
Whilst I agree that this is an unlikely rumor, Apple also said that they wouldn’t make a video iPod, tablet or phone; that 7" tablets are terrible and that 10" is the “minimum required for great tablet apps”; and that 3.5" (and then 4") was the ideal size for a phone.

They’re prone to changing their minds.
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I think it's less about changing their minds than misdirection. The always point out the reasons they won't do something or why what's there doesn't work. They may have been working on solutions to these problems maybe even before the competition hit the market.
 
More likely that one is a 12.9" iPad and the other is the new 12.9" MBA with both sharing the same screen. The MBA would be the ideal device to turn into a laptop/tablet hybrid leaving the MBP as their main laptop offering.
 
proline said:
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Apple has no iPad problem. It sells way more than the Mac, but only ⅓ of the iPhone, which makes sense because everyone needs a phone, whereas not everyone needs a tablet. To think sales would be higher is delusional.
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Apple has an iPad problem. I never said it has to be as big as iPhone. Tablet sales are stagnating for several reasons. One of them is people do not feel the need to upgrade them because new features are not needed. I have seen this both with myself and family.

Also, the tablet has taken a huge hit in primary education. It started out as almost the holy grail, but as schools tried to use it people have realized it is not ready for productivity. It can be used for certain tasks, but in general a laptop is better. The cost of an iPad is still high compared to Chrombooks. I work in education and see this within my school district. Let's not forgot the disaster of LA schools. If Apple wants to get serious, they need to make educational software and services and do it soon.

As phones increase in size, people are also less in need of tablets. I personally am seeing this in the family also, with someone dumping the iPad mini/iPhone 5s for just the iPhone 6+.

I love the iPad; its a great device. But the integration between iOS and OSX is no where near as good as Apple leads people to believe, especially for serious work.

I DO NOT want a merged OS. If they create a 12" version that runs iOS when on its own, and boot into OSX when attacked to a keyboard/trackpad, that could be cool. A merger will only lead to a water-ed down OSX rather than a beefed up iOS. We have seen how Apple merges those two with iWork and such, and the OSX features always get the short end of the stick.
 
"At Apple, we believe you should be able to use the right device for the moment. We want the transitions between these moments to be as absolutely natural and seamless as possible."

Well, that statement is telling. What about a device that has iOS when undocked and a OS X when docked? You get the best of both worlds with all of your data going with you when you undock. It's not a combining of the two OS variations, but an implementation of each in the right context.
 
griz said:
"At Apple, we believe you should be able to use the right device for the moment. We want the transitions between these moments to be as absolutely natural and seamless as possible."

Well, that statement is telling. What about a device that has iOS when undocked and a OS X when docked? You get the best of both worlds with all of your data going with you when you undock. It's not a combining of the two OS variations, but an implementation of each in the right context.
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This is what I was hinting at above. Having the files/data shared would be awesome, but the keep the software separate. The only issue would be building a hardware device capable of ARM/INTEL, which takes up twice as much space. That I do not see Apple doing...unless of court they port OSX to ARM.
 
I don't know. One one hand it sounds like a plausible venture, but on the other hand I'm worried about the compromises that will have to be made. Will it run on ARM? Most likely. This means a "new" OS X version. Ugh, just make iOS more capable and leave them apart.

It will also make me a little sad to see the iPad become a hybrid, but I have no idea why... 😕
 
I thought the market had voted no to hybrid devices.
And up until NFC, I would have said no-way, but now…

Anything is possible. I really hope Apple doesn't get tempted to follow Microsoft into that particular hell.

Anybody commenting here actually seen a Surface Pro in use?

I watched someone sing the praises of his Surface Pro, then squint for hours trying to get work done on it. If you want to do work, stick to MacBook Air - no amount of touch nicety can make up for the practicality of a MacBook Air.

Using the Surface Pro as a tablet is a curiosity, a demo, but no real practical use. Those that use them for any kind of work, use them as a second rate notebook. It's probably a second rate tablet, unless they want to use a pen, I guess. Even so, I'm betting second rate experience.

As i wrote above - the market has voted otherwise. It's $250 loss-leader netbooks, which are always a regret purchase or iPad and a MacBook Air. Like all Microsoft's products. Nobody wants it. People use it because it's been forced on them by corporate IT. Oh, and kool-aid drunk IT people, trying to prove a point.
 
If it has OSX features Id totally get this but I havent been impressed with the Surface yet so.... The Surface works as a really small laptop but I prefer a 15" rMBP. I may get one for testing but yeah.... Im not enthused. Im sure many will like this from Apple. The market hasnt voted in favor of hybrids but I realize that Apple may want to get ahead of the market trends on this.
 
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mad3inch1na said:
OS X is called that because it is based on unix. They might go to OS 11 if they change the whole platform of the OS, but otherwise we will see OS X 10.11 next year.
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I'd like to see them leverage the power of OS X and call the next release OS X 10.10²
 
lol, and why exactly would "supply chain sources" have a clue as to what software is being made for the device (if it exists at all)?
 
Dear God no. I have a MS Surface Pro. I hate it with a fervent passion. Half of it is touch optimized, and the other half of the OS is of the desktop flavor with interface elements too small to use your finger. Their fix was to offer a stylus, which they tout as an option. It's really just a way around a miserable UI.

Please don't let this be true.
 
This is exactly what the iPad needs. iOS does not currently make use of iPad's screen real estate, and would just be plain silly on a larger iPad.

iOS is perfect for phones, but these are tablets. Multitasking, apps side-by-side, etc is a necessity in my opinion.

I won't get on the topic of stylus-input for notes and drawing, but it's certainly something I prefer.

And no, I don't need it to replace my rMBP, but I also don't need a blown up version of my phone.
 
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