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You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

If this rumour is indeed true and Apple has a glucose meter functionality in its iWatch then this will be a game changer that will rival the iPad.

rival the ipad? So what affliction does every ipad owner have then? :rolleyes:
 
Yes, because of course those doctors from years ago stopped working on their methodology waiting until they were secretely hired by Apple so then, and only then, they would release the result of their work.

Haven't you heard? The iPhone 6 will cure AIDS too!!!

/sarcasm

Those studies didn't provide accurate results. That's why there is currently no non-invasive way to accurately measure glucose levels. It will be a considerable revolution for the lives of a lot of people around the world when this technology finally arrives, but it won't appear first in a toy, sorry.

"Toys" rarely are 5 years in making by teams of professionals, some of which are medical device professionals. Do you really think Apple would release anything sub-par or anything that is going to feel like a gimmick or toy? :confused:
 
Measuring blood glucose, non-invasively? Mm yeah....I'm skeptical
That's what they said about the iPhone and iPad. If anyone can pull it off, it's Apple. Of course, if it doesn't work then I think we'll all be disappointed... :p
 
Those studies didn't provide accurate results. That's why there is currently no non-invasive way to accurately measure glucose levels. It will be a considerable revolution for the lives of a lot of people around the world when this technology finally arrives, but it won't appear first in a toy, sorry.

I don't think it'll arrive with iWatch but it may arrive first in a "toy" nevertheless. Maybe iWatch 5. But don't be so sure that this'll be a gadget only suitable for hospitals. It's in everyone's interest if blood glucose measurement can be done with a mass production "toy".
 
I would only buy the mock up that looks like a fitness band!

I will never buy a watch that looks like the one pictured in this article.

The one that looks like a fitbit with an pled screen would be amazing.
 
Health tracking is not the next big thing.

There's a reason why those Fuelbands and Fitbits never caught on.

You mean like MP3 players before the iPod, "smart" phones before the iPhone and tablets before the iPad? I've learned to wait and see what Apple has to offer before declaring an entire category a non-hit.
 
Health tracking is not the next big thing.

There's a reason why those Fuelbands and Fitbits never caught on.

Is this extreme sarcasm? They caught on immensely.

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I hope the FDA rejects it if Apple plans to claim they can measure glucose levels non-invasively. Doing so reliably is not possible today, and many companies working specifically in this area have been trying for years, it's not the kind of thing Apple could summon out of nowhere. And innacurate results are far from good enough with something as critical as this.

In other words, you think Apple would flat out lie about the capabilities. This is all just rumor right now, but I think you'd get a bit more than an FDA rejection if Apple made a claim like that...and it really kind of puzzles me that a. you can't believe that it could have been done without YOUR knowing and b. someone would lie about it so far as the FDA having to stop them.
 
They've scooped up some of the most prominent people in that field for a few years now.

Months. And Apple cannot miniaturize something that doesn't exist. Even ignoring size, this technology doesn't exist yet in any reliable fashion.

This is a great read for the "OMG buy shares now!" crowd under the belief that glucose measuring will actually happen. I love how it describes the pointless investiments as "dumb money".

Do you really think Apple would release anything sub-par or anything that is going to feel like a gimmick or toy? :confused:

You have just described Siri and the Maps app.

Even the iPhone and the iPad are basically toys - they are not health devices, they don't require FDA approval, they have never had to be subject to a rigorous battery of scientific studies to prove that they can do what they claim they do.

Non invasive glucose measuring not only would be and require all of the above, it would be a revolution from a company that has currently zero health products.

and it really kind of puzzles me that a. you can't believe that it could have been done without YOUR knowing and b. someone would lie about it so far as the FDA having to stop them.

Revolutions don't usually happen without people taking notice of them. I would expect the stereotypical basement-based forum dweller to be too alienated to hear something about it, but it's something that would change the world.

Besides, Apple doesn't need to lie. It simply has to add enough caveats to say the truth - that their device could measure glucose levels, only without enough accuracy to make it useful as a health device - and then rely on consumer's lack of information and general Apple fanboyism to see people using the iWatch as if it were an accurate source of information.
 
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You are correct. Most people, regardless of what they say, in reality don't give a damn about their health if it involves even the slightest effort. There we exceptions, such as the folks in Silicon Valley, but the rest of America prefers to watch boob toob all day and chow down on junk food. I don't know if the folks in Cupertino have a real sense of the average slob. The average slob that wants a new shiny smartphone ain't gonna shell out several hundred bucks for a health monitor.

The average slob is not the average person, even though it may seem that way to you.

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I just hope health book can figure out when I am going to die so I know when to party it up.

ETA till death: 1 year, 2 days remaining...

Imagine siri giving you the update: "you went for a walk today, and only had 2 vodkas last night, you have added another week to your life."

That's one of my fears of an always watching health tracker...those nights when it may say, "Your wife is right, that should be your last drink then you should go home".
 
Months. And Apple cannot miniaturize something that doesn't exist. Even ignoring size, this technology doesn't exist yet in any reliable fashion.

This is a great read for the "OMG buy shares now!" crowd under the belief that glucose measuring will actually happen. I love how it describes the pointless investiments as "dumb money".



You have just described Siri and the Maps app.

Even the iPhone and the iPad are basically toys - they are not health devices, they don't require FDA approval, they have never had to be subject to a rigorous battery of scientific studies to prove that they can do what they claim they do.

Non invasive glucose measuring not only would be and require all of the above, it would be a revolution from a company that has currently zero health products.

Siri and Maps are cloud based services that are immensely more complicated than you seem to grasp and do not even fit the description you have proposed.

There's a reason why this is a rumor, but you're making even more assumptions when it comes to a "rigorous battery of scientific studies".
 
Siri and Maps are cloud based services that are immensely more complicated than you seem to grasp and do not even fit the description you have proposed.

They are gimmicks that currently work poorly and are stuck in beta. Since they're basically toys, that doesn't really hurt people (unless you live in Australia, of course). A glucose measuring device couldn't afford to be so, well, sloppy.

There's a reason why this is a rumor, but you're making even more assumptions when it comes to a "rigorous battery of scientific studies".

That's how health care works. I don't expect everyone to grasp the concept, especially in a nest of Apple fanboyism, but creating a completely new and revolutionary health product isn't as simple as making a toy.
 
I hope the FDA rejects it if Apple plans to claim they can measure glucose levels non-invasively. Doing so reliably is not possible today, and many companies working specifically in this area have been trying for years, it's not the kind of thing Apple could summon out of nowhere. And innacurate results are far from good enough with something as critical as this.

The FDA approval, as an approved medical device, can be narrow. I product can have a broad range of marketing features, but FDA can approve it for use for only one of those. If that is the case Drs. can only prescribe the device for that particular use and the manufacturer has to make it clear to the consumer what exact use and protocol the device is approved for. The package can't just have an "FDA Approved Device" on the box to give the impression all features were tested by the FDA for efficacy.

If the "iWatch" does get FDA approval for some uses then boom! it's the next iPhone. That is much bigger than just an iPhone companion or fitness band. But I doubt the first watch will have any FDA approval. Too much testing and red tape; much more than getting just FCC certification.
 
This is sounding more and more like a device for hypochondriacs. Perhaps they should re-name it the iWorry? I'm starting to seriously wonder about the responsibility/ethics of using health to sell gadgets.

Most people simply don't need to measure these things

You are right, The more I read about the "iWatch", the more I believe that Apple might actually be trying to enter the sports watch market. In that sense google, samsung, motorola and most apple fanboys got it completely wrong. They thought that these devices would interest the general public, but why would the average joe want to measure their health data all the time?


Sports? Do you really want to encourage amateurs to start redlining it on heart rate and BP without medical supervision?

let me tell you this: there is a group of people that have been collecting and analyzing their heart rates and other health data for years: athletes. Not even professional athletes but people that DO work out. Think runners, triathletes.

There is a well established market of sports watches. Companies such as Sunnto, Garmin and Polar have offered "smart watches" with dozens of sensors for years. These will be the real contenders for Apple. Not samsung with it's stupid wrist-camera! :D

Hell, if someone is really interested in measuring his/her health data they do not have to wait for the iWatch. Just have a look at stuff like the garming 620 which has a heart rate monitor, gps, accelerometers, bluetooth, wifi, colour touch screen... it syncs with your phone/pc. It lets you share your workouts on the web. Does that sound like an 'iWatch' to you?

My prediction is that the "iWatch" main focus will be the sports-watch functions with integration with iPhones as a (secondary) plus.

I suspect that most apple fanboys will be disappointed. Training devices such as these are ugly and bulky, you wear them during your workouts, not as a fashion gadget. Still runners and other athletes buy them, not because it's cool but because the data is actually useful for them.

If you have never had the need for a gps-watch or a heart rate monitor before, I suspect the new watch from apple won't appeal to you.
 
If they truly had a way to give non-invasive glucose readings, that'd be a big thing: Lots of people have an increased risk of developing diabetes due to lifestyle and/or family history. There's definitely a market for something that could conveniently and reliably(!) alert you to the early warning signs.

Then again, most people commenting on this seem to agree that there's currently no technology for measuring glucose levels in that way, so I'n not holding my breath for that one.

There were a lot of technologies that didn't exist... until Apple invented them or bought a company who invented it.
 
You feel smarter than Apple?

Too bad I don't need one. This only targets a specific population. I don't see people under the age of 30 with Beats headphones saying "can't wait to test my blood glucose". And if I need the feature hopefully it's years from now when I'm much older.
I'm a guy; I haven't been to the dentist in 3 freaking years and that is covered under my insurance. My wife has to scream at me to go. Most guys are lazy to care about health gadgets until something bad happens. Not saying every guy because I know that there are some sensitive ones here with small pockets; I'm saying the majority of guys.

-You feel smarter than Apple?
-Me and my friend take health more seriously. We are also "real straight guys"
 
I don't get it

Why is the iWatch getting so much pub for something that already exists? I'd swear Apple invented something that the world has never heard of before.
 
So who is going to believe a 10 sensor device that is not the same as anything out there will get approval in a few months even though is not even finalized sure...
 
Imagine paying for an Apple device with insurance or HSA. I would hope for just a minor malady, enough to get a prescription. :D

Absolutely, or at the very least with a corporate FSA account. (Pre-Tax at least!)

I better start eating worse so I can raise my Blood Pressure before the fall. haha
 
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